{"id":40752,"date":"2013-04-05T13:38:55","date_gmt":"2013-04-05T19:38:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/renewsblog\/?p=40752"},"modified":"2024-05-29T03:33:13","modified_gmt":"2024-05-29T09:33:13","slug":"2013-04-05-lease-forward-lease-back","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/2013-04-05-lease-forward-lease-back","title":{"rendered":"The Pros and Cons of a Lease Forward (or Lease Back)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Once upon a time, not so long ago, there was a family of investors who loved their job and all that it entailed.\u00a0 They had gotten a great deal on a property, and although it was further away then they would have liked, the price was right.<\/p>\n<p>There were a couple of questionable issues: It needed some foundation work, and it had a <a title=\"Should You Invest in Homes with a Pool?\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/2013\/03\/28\/invest-in-homes-with-a-pool\/\" target=\"_blank\">pool<\/a> which can be scary. \u00a0All in all it was a great property.\u00a0 After the remodel, the house was listed and though it did sit a little longer on the market then this happy family would have liked, it finally went under contract.\u00a0 The spectacular listing agent (that would be me) thought she had done all of her homework with the lender and the buyer&#8217;s agent and felt assured that the property would close in the prescribed time alloted.\u00a0 Even though it was a VA loan.\u00a0 And even knowing that the lender had some issues in the past closing another deal on time&#8230;.&lt;Insert wishful thinking here&gt;\u00a0 So ten days before closing, when asked by the buyers agent if a lease forward might be possible for her clients to make the transition more smooth for them (they were selling a house 3 hours away)\u00a0 we agreed.<\/p>\n<h2>The Problem&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>Fast forward to the day before closing.\u00a0 The sensational listing agent was hard at work at her desk wrapping up for the day when she received a disturbing call from, not the buyers agent or the lender but from the title company informing her that closing was not taking place the next day.\u00a0 After a flurry of phone calls to get to the bottom of the situation, the listing agent discovers that not only is the property not closing the next day, it&#8217;s questionable as to when or even IF the property is going to close.\u00a0 In the meantime, the buyers have moved in.\u00a0 This happy investor family has now become a landlord.\u00a0 They were not so happy anymore.<\/p>\n<p>To make an incredibly long story short, the property did end up closing almost 3 1\/2 months after originally planned.\u00a0 In the meantime, the buyers settled in and began contacting us about issues that came up on their <a title=\"The Real Estate Investor\u2019s Guide to Understanding Property Inspection Reports\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/15\/property-inspection-reports-investors\/\" target=\"_blank\">inspection report<\/a> that they never asked us for during option.\u00a0 Things like hose bib leaks, kitchen sink drainage, etc.\u00a0 Suddenly now because we were the landlord, it was a like a free card to ask for the moon.\u00a0 Let me just say, it was a painful 3 months.<\/p>\n<h2>Lessons Learned&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>So this experience was definitely a learning curve and really highlighted the following points I think are important:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Get a written lease contract on whatever form your state uses!<\/strong>\u00a0 This will save you hours of pain and suffering.\u00a0 Spell out every last detail and expectation and leave nothing to be assumed.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Stipulate in the lease that\u00a0material changes to the property can not be made until after closing and charge a deposit\u00a0that can be credited back at closing!<\/strong>\u00a0 I had another situation where my clients agreed to lease forward 3 days before closing and the buyers got in, started ripping stuff out and discovered a leak in one corner of their roof that their inspector had missed.\u00a0 The day of closing they were refusing to sign unless the sellers compensated for it.\u00a0 What a nightmare!<\/li>\n<li><strong>Ensure that the rental amount you are charging is the current market rate.<\/strong>\u00a0 That way if you find yourself in a situation like we were in with closing pushed back 3 months you are at least pulling in fair market value in rent.Even though we&#8217;ve had a couple of scary experiences with leasing before closing, we would do it again.\u00a0 It can be a great incentive for a buyer or seller to offer that option so I don&#8217;t think it should be ignored.\u00a0 It is just important to have all expectations lined out in writing.As for the happy investor family from above?\u00a0 They took notes, learned from experience, dusted themselves off and rode off into the sunset onto another deal.\u00a0 They are again, happy doing what they enjoy!Happy investing!<br \/>\nPhoto: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/35619699@N00\/1346628561\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">hannah sheffield<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Once upon a time, not so long ago, there was a family of investors who loved their job and all that it entailed.\u00a0 They had gotten a great deal on 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