{"id":53113,"date":"2014-01-16T00:05:48","date_gmt":"2014-01-16T07:05:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/renewsblog\/?p=53113"},"modified":"2023-04-11T04:32:32","modified_gmt":"2023-04-11T10:32:32","slug":"2014-01-16-bp-podcast-053-leverage-jason-hull","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/2014-01-16-bp-podcast-053-leverage-jason-hull","title":{"rendered":"Investing Without Loans and Retiring Early with Jason Hull"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On today&#8217;s episode of the BiggerPockets Podcast we have an incredible chat with financial planner, real estate investor, and an all-around great guy &#8211; <strong>Jason Hull<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Jason has a great story of how his early mistakes led to his conservative but effective strategy of building wealth through rental property&#8230; all without the use of leverage, loans, or doing any labor. Jason has some terrific insight into the way our human behavior causes us to act and invest, \u00a0&#8211; so don&#8217;t miss this entertaining and informative show that will have you looking at your real estate in a whole new light.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/bpp53-jason-hull-podcast-transcript-retiring-early-no-loan-investing\" target=\"_blank\">Read the transcript for episode 53 with Jason Hull here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Listen to The Show on iTunes<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/biggerpockets-podcast-real\/id594419649\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Click here<\/a>\u00a0to listen on iTunes.<\/p>\n<h2>Listen to the Podcast Here<\/h2>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/playlist.megaphone.fm\/?e=BIGPOC6330357781\" width=\"100%\" height=\"200\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2>In This Show, We Cover:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Getting over-extended with his first deals and facing the housing collapse<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-43638\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/BiggerPockets-Podcast-_-Real-Estate-Investing-and-Wealth-Building-9.42.11-AM1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"BiggerPockets Podcast _ Real Estate Investing and Wealth Building 9.42.11 AM\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" title=\"\"><\/a><\/li>\n<li>The &#8220;Oh Crap&#8221; backup plan<\/li>\n<li>The only two ways to make money in real estate<\/li>\n<li>Separating your skills from what the market is doing<\/li>\n<li>Getting &#8220;lucky&#8221; in real estate<\/li>\n<li>Getting to &#8220;P.I.R.E.&#8221; = Passive Income, Retire Early<\/li>\n<li>Why Jason doesn&#8217;t use leverage (mortgages)<\/li>\n<li>How to find an awesome property manager<\/li>\n<li>Working with a Financial Planner<\/li>\n<li>Stocks vs. Real Estate&#8230; Where is the balance?<\/li>\n<li>Why you should open a Roth IRA with $100<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Links from the Show<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"How NOT to Invest in Real Estate\u2026 A Case Study\" href=\"\/renewsblog\/2013\/05\/10\/how-not-to-invest-in-real-estate\/\" target=\"_blank\">Jason&#8217;s Post &#8211; How NOT to Invest in Real Estate\u2026 A Case Study<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"BP Podcast 052: Buying Apartment Complexes, Raising Millions, and Building a Profitable Business with Ken McElroy\" href=\"\/renewsblog\/2014\/01\/09\/bp-podcast-052-raising-millions-ken-mcelroy-rich-dad\/\" target=\"_blank\">BP Podcast 052: Buying Apartment Complexes, Raising Millions, and Building a Profitable Business with Ken McElroy<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/BiggerPockets\/posts\/10151936548039833\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook Post about &#8220;How Would You Spend $100?&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"The Two Most Painful Words a Landlord May Ever Hear\u2026\" href=\"\/renewsblog\/2013\/12\/20\/two-words-painful-landlord\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Two Most Painful Words a Landlord May Ever Hear\u2026<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"BP Podcast 050: Getting Started and No Money Down House Flipping with Mike Simmons\" href=\"\/renewsblog\/2013\/12\/26\/bp-podcast-050-getting-started-setting-partnerships-flipping-mike-simmons\/\" target=\"_blank\">BP Podcast 050: Getting Started and No Money Down House Flipping with Mike Simmons<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Books Mentioned in the Show<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/2ama2uf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">123 Home Depot<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/29XzJvM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Entreleadership<\/a> by Dave Ramsey<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/29Tuy4v\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Goal<\/a> by Eliyahu M. Goldratt<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/2a6u0qp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Four Hour Chef<\/a> by Timothy Ferriss<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Tweetable Topics<\/h2>\n<p>Invest for the cash flow. The appreciation is just gravy. (<a href=\"http:\/\/ctt.ec\/o997T\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tweet This!<\/a>)<br \/>\nI want to be lazy when I retire!\u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/ctt.ec\/ROxpy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tweet This!<\/a>)<br \/>\nHaving money problems with your spouse is a sign of bad communication.\u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/ctt.ec\/6l6w0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tweet This!<\/a>)<\/p>\n<h2>Connect with Jason<\/h2>\n<p>Jason&#8217;s Website: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.HullFinancialPlanning.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">HullFinancialPlanning.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On today&#8217;s episode of the BiggerPockets Podcast we have an incredible chat with financial planner, real estate investor, and an all-around great guy &#8211; Jason Hull. 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