{"id":78345,"date":"2019-06-30T14:30:14","date_gmt":"2019-06-30T20:30:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/renewsblog\/?p=78345"},"modified":"2024-02-13T18:30:52","modified_gmt":"2024-02-14T01:30:52","slug":"2016-06-14-use-real-estate-retirement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/2016-06-14-use-real-estate-retirement","title":{"rendered":"How to Use Real Estate to Retire MUCH More Comfortably Than Your 401k Would Allow"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s create a very credible scenario today. Surely by now BiggerPockets is closing in on its gazillionth member, and most of &#8217;em are regular folk like you n&#8217; me. Most go to work, get married, and have a family. And the economy for quite a while now has demanded both parents work to make ends meet and maybe get a teensy, weensy bit ahead.<\/p>\n<p>Now let&#8217;s go deeper, and take a look at a fictitious version of one of these &#8220;typical&#8221; families. Here are the &#8220;facts&#8221; about our fictional couple. See if they don&#8217;t sound like you or other people you may know.<\/p>\n<p>Gary is 40, and his wife, Nicole, is 39. Married in their early 20s, they now have a couple kids, 12 and 9.<\/p>\n<p>Gary makes $48,500 a year before taxes. Nicole makes $16 an hour for 25 hours weekly as a bookkeeper, which totals approximately $20,000 a year pre-tax. They live in Texas, where they were both born and raised.<\/p>\n<h2>What They&#8217;ve Done So Far<\/h2>\n<p>For the last 15 years or so, they&#8217;ve each been putting $250 a month into their self-directed Roth IRAs. It&#8217;s what they&#8217;ve been able to afford. At first it was due to what they made at work, but then with the kids, well, I&#8217;m sure you get the picture.<\/p>\n<p>This has resulted in them having a combined balance of about <strong>$115,000<\/strong> between the two accounts. Not a stellar return\u2014about 3.5% a year average\u2014but it&#8217;s nothin&#8217; to sneeze at.<\/p>\n<p>They also bought a modest home <a href=\"\/renewsblog\/fha-guidelines\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">using FHA financing<\/a> back when the prices were, um, &#8220;reasonable.&#8221; They&#8217;ve remained there, as the home has three bedrooms and a couple bathrooms. However, they wish they could move to a home with more square footage.<\/p>\n<p>They have no other investments and pretty much live on a strict budget. They go out occasionally as a couple or family\u2014the normal stuff. Over the last 15 years, aside from their separate Roth IRA contributions, they&#8217;ve been able to put away a bit over $25,000 (what they call their &#8220;rainy day&#8221; fund).<\/p>\n<p>Though Gary gets small raises every now and then, he&#8217;s lucky his income is even keeping up with inflation. The question begging to be answered is <em>what are they gonna do for retirement income?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-106642\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/apartment-building.jpg\" alt=\"real estate investment, rental, housing\" width=\"702\" height=\"336\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/apartment-building.jpg 702w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/apartment-building-300x144.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>What Are Their Options?<\/h2>\n<p>They have several choices. Here are just a couple options.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Refinance their home loan to lower payments significantly. They&#8217;ll cut their monthly payment down by $300. This is a Captain Obvious no-brainer and should be done regardless of anything else they may choose to do.<\/li>\n<li>Put both of their self-directed Roth IRAs into discounted first position notes\/land contracts, secured by real estate.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>They can easily accomplish the latter through an investor group model. They have neither the knowledge, expertise, nor experience to invest in notes by themselves.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, investors moving into discounted notes without experience or professional advice are far more likely than not to end up with an advanced degree from Hard Knocks University. I&#8217;ve seen it far too often. Don&#8217;t let note investing mirror amateur night at the local comedy club.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Related:<\/strong> <a href=\"\/renewsblog\/2016\/06\/02\/fund-retirement-accounts-real-estate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">How Retirement Contributions Are Saving One Real Estate Investor $53K in Taxes<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<h3>Side Note on Note Investing<\/h3>\n<p>Last month was the 40th anniversary of my first discounted note purchase. In that time, I&#8217;ve yet to have a note produce an overall yield\u2014from day one in &#8217;til last day out\u2014of less than 10%. Every now and then, but rarely, I&#8217;ve had a non-performing note\/land contract return less, or even lose money. But the returns on non-performing are so much higher than performing that the occasional loser is less than a blip on the screen, relatively speaking.<\/p>\n<p>How high can the yields be on non-performing <a href=\"\/renewsblog\/2007\/07\/26\/how-to-find-out-if-there-are-any-liens-on-a-property\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">liens<\/a>? Cartoonishly so. But the super high yields are just as much outliers as the losers are IF it&#8217;s done professionally.<\/p>\n<p>Those of you wishing to get your foot in the door of non-performing notes\/land contracts secured by real estate should always keep in mind that those much higher yields come with equally higher risk. Most folks don&#8217;t like talking about it, but there it is. The higher the risk, the higher the yield, and the bigger chance of failure.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t kid yourself. This is why using a pro to mitigate that risk\u2014non-performing OR performing\u2014is a necessity if you&#8217;re serious. This point cannot be over emphasized.<\/p>\n<h3>Back to the Hypothetical Couple<\/h3>\n<p>If Gary and Nicole keep putting in the modest sum of $250\/month a piece into their Roth IRAs for the next 25 years and put that money into discounted notes\u2014performing\u2014let&#8217;s see what happens. In order to make the point more compelling, we&#8217;re gonna assume they average a paltry <strong>8% overall annual yield<\/strong>, something I&#8217;ve not seen in my professional career as it relates to discounted note yields.<\/p>\n<h2>The Analysis<\/h2>\n<blockquote><p><em>Present value =<\/em> $115,000<\/p>\n<p><em>Annual investment (payment) =<\/em> $6,000<\/p>\n<p><em>Time (n) =<\/em> 25 years<\/p>\n<p><em>Interest\/yield (i) =<\/em> 8%<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>They&#8217;d end up when Gary turns 65 with about <strong>$1.25 million<\/strong> in their two Roths combined. If we extend the lousy 8% example annual return &#8217;til they both die, that&#8217;s a tax-free income BEGINNING at around <strong>$100,000 a year<\/strong>\u2014wait for it\u2014<strong>tax-free. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Why do I say &#8220;beginning&#8221;? Simple, cuz their portfolio of performing notes\/land contracts will continue to do what they do, which is to pay off early in a totally random manner. (Most pay off in a three to nine year range.)<\/p>\n<p>Inside the Roth, there&#8217;ll be no taxes on the profits. The money will be reinvested in larger liens with slightly larger monthly payments. This means, in essence, that they&#8217;ll forever be getting random &#8220;pay raises&#8221; their entire retirement.<\/p>\n<p>How freakin&#8217; cool is that?!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-83895\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/retire-niche.jpg\" alt=\"retire-niche\" width=\"702\" height=\"336\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/retire-niche.jpg 702w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/retire-niche-300x144.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px\" \/><br \/>\n<em><br \/>\n<strong>Related:<\/strong> <a href=\"\/renewsblog\/2016\/05\/23\/retire-3-years-real-estate-investing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">How to Retire in 3 Years Through Real Estate Investing<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Can they do other things? You bet. But considering they have a couple kids and haven&#8217;t yet figured out how to print $100 bills, this will have to do.<\/p>\n<p>They can do other things. But given the cost of living for a family with this income, regardless of the fact they live in a relatively low cost-of-living state like Texas, this plan is eminently doable.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s compare this approach to the typical family with their 401k plans. (I&#8217;ll make this short.)<\/p>\n<p>If a similar family across the street from our couple ended up with a work-related 401k balance at age 65 of $1 million, then made the same 8% return (a delusion), they&#8217;d be living on $80,000 yearly\u2014BEFORE taxes.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, they&#8217;d be grossing far less income than Gary and Nicole will be netting. The neighbors&#8217; net income would be around $67,000.<\/p>\n<p>The kicker? The neighbors can&#8217;t even come close to achieving that in their work-related 401k. It&#8217;s a fantasy to say the least.<\/p>\n<h2>The Takeaway<\/h2>\n<p>Getting ourselves to a very nice retirement, one allowing a full lifestyle with travel and whatever else makes your day, doesn&#8217;t have to be super complex or sophisticated. It does require a cogent plan and for that plan to be executed on purpose.<\/p>\n<p>Gary and Nicole will retire with more tax-free income than they likely ever made pre-tax in their lives, combined. All they did was what they could do and what they could afford.<\/p>\n<p>Imagine if somehow they&#8217;d been able to shoehorn in a rental or two! When the smoke clears, the truth is that none of this, assuming there&#8217;s a pro in the mix, is rocket science.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/webinars\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-91217\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/blog_ads-01.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"85\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/blog_ads-01.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/blog_ads-01-300x36.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>What does your retirement strategy look like?\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Let me know with a comment!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s definitely the most commonly discussed method, but is a 401K actually the best way to set yourself up for retirement? Take a closer look here\u2014and learn why you may want to explore real estate investments instead!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":555,"featured_media":71238,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7398],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-78345","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-retirement"],"acf":[],"comment_count":0,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/78345","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/555"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=78345"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/78345\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/71238"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=78345"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=78345"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=78345"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}