{"id":98534,"date":"2018-04-28T14:30:47","date_gmt":"2018-04-28T20:30:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/renewsblog\/?p=98534"},"modified":"2021-03-16T13:53:52","modified_gmt":"2021-03-16T19:53:52","slug":"investing-working","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/investing-working","title":{"rendered":"The Difference Between Investing and Working in Real Estate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I think one of the most important things for real estate investors to be educated on and aware of is what they are getting themselves into when they decide on a particular investing strategy.<\/p>\n<p>For the record, I don\u2019t think any strategy is the wrong way to go. I only think a strategy is the wrong way to go if you chose it naively with no idea what you\u2019re getting yourself into. And in those situations, it may not actually be the strategy that is wrong\u2026 It may just be that the strategy is wrong for you.<\/p>\n<p>With anything in life, and especially with investing and entrepreneurship, education and self-awareness are huge.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><em>If you&#8217;re educated about what really goes into an investing strategy and you have self-awareness surrounding your goals, skills, and interests, and you can weigh those things against each other, you will be miles ahead of the crowd.<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>The Definition of Investing<\/h2>\n<p>If I pull up the handy Google and ask for the definition of the word \u201cinvest,\u201d this is what I get:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Invest:<em> 1. Expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I want to highlight two words in there\u2014<em>expend<\/em> and <em>money<\/em>. Notice it only specifies money. So if I buy some stock shares with my money, then that fits this definition. The only thing being <em>expended<\/em> is money.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Related:<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"\/renewsblog\/2016\/06\/30\/introducingbiggerpockets-brrrr-calculator\/\" target=\"_blank\">Introducing: The BiggerPockets BRRRR Calculator!<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<h2>The Definition of Working<\/h2>\n<p>If I pull up the handy Google and ask for the definition of the word \u201cwork,\u201d this is what I get:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Work:<em> 1. Activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><em style=\"text-align: center;\">2. Mental or physical activity as a means of earning income; employment<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><em style=\"text-align: center;\">3. A task or tasks to be undertaken; something a person or thing has to do<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Activity<\/em> and <em>tasks<\/em> are the key words for me in this one. So this one is me doing something, or putting a mental or physical effort in, or what have you. Most of us are pretty familiar with this term.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I\u2019m not sharing these definitions with you because I\u2019m trying to be condescending or explain the terms to you\u2014I know you know what these words mean. I am including them because they very clearly show the difference in the two terms at an extremely universal level.<\/p>\n<p>In one of these scenarios, money is being invested. In another one of these scenarios, effort is being invested.<\/p>\n<h2>Investing and Working in Real Estate<\/h2>\n<p>So why am I harping on these two words? Well, it\u2019s simple. Investors oftentimes don\u2019t seem to understand the difference when it comes to their real estate investments.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s go back to buying a stock share. Is that working, or investing? All day long, that\u2019s investing. Why? Because the only thing you are putting into it is <em>money<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>What about your nine-to-five job? Is that working or investing? No doubt, that is working. Why? Because what you are putting in is <em>effort<\/em>. (I realize some people may need to invest money into their \u201cwork\u201d but that is a different context from what I\u2019m talking about here.)<\/p>\n<p>Those two examples are very obvious. But what about real estate investing? Where do things fall in this industry?<\/p>\n<p>Well, we actually start to enter a gray area.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s use flipping a house as an example. If you go into real estate investing and you decide to flip a house, is that a straight investment?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-98452\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/luxury-house-hack-update.jpg\" alt=\"luxury-house-hack-update\" width=\"702\" height=\"336\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/luxury-house-hack-update.jpg 702w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/luxury-house-hack-update-300x144.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Most people seem to think so. But let\u2019s breakdown the tasks involved with flipping a house:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Purchase a distressed property<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Fund rehab materials<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Perform rehab<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Sell property<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>If we were to pull down those obnoxiously haughty definitions of <em>invest<\/em> and <em>work<\/em>, do all of these components fit into the investing definition? Nope. \u00a0I see them more broken down as follows:<\/p>\n<p>Invest:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Purchase a distressed property<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Fund rehab materials<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Work:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Perform rehab<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>We can all agree that if you only purchase the distressed property and purchase the rehab materials and then sell the property, you won\u2019t make any money. So in this case, the key to your profits is in the work. The money you invest lends its hand toward the profits and is an important part of it\u2014but without the work, the profits won\u2019t appear.<\/p>\n<p>So at the end of the flip, when it\u2019s all complete and you\u2019ve successfully flipped the property to a buyer, you walk away with a chunk of cash. That cash is usually what people consider to be the profit from their investment. But of that cash, how much of it is a return on your <em>actual<\/em> investment (i.e. the money you expended into the project)? And how much of that cash is essentially payment for the work (or sweat equity) you put into the project?<\/p>\n<p>If you work a job, you are typically paid for your time and effort. You likely get paid per hour\u2014even if you\u2019re on salaried pay at your job, you are still worth a certain amount per hour. So you just did all the work to rehab and sell this property. For those parts of it, some of that financial return\/profit is really just payment for your time and effort\u2014just like any other job.<\/p>\n<p>So how much of that profit is a return on your monetary investment (which is what investing is really about)? And how much of it is just payment for your time?<\/p>\n<h2>Sweat Equity<\/h2>\n<p>A common and fun term you might have heard is <em>sweat equity<\/em>. Sweat equity is defined as \u201can interest or increased value in a property earned from labor toward upkeep or restoration.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The definition of the term really brings together this idea of having to work in and for your investments. There still is an investing component: the increase in the value of the property once you do the work on it, which is likely greater than the amount of profit that is really just paying you for your work. But work is required in order for it to come into fruition.<\/p>\n<h2>Understanding the Spectrum<\/h2>\n<p>As I\u2019ve already suggested, there is a spectrum for which investing strategies require no work and are just straight investments (monetary only) and which ones require significant work\u2014and everything in between.<\/p>\n<p>On the far end of the no-work-required investments, you can think about investing in stocks (non\u2013Real Estate) or notes (Real Estate).<\/p>\n<p>On the far end of the work-required investments, you can think about wholesaling. In fact, I would argue that there isn\u2019t an investing component at all to wholesaling. Instead, wholesaling is 100 percent work. You aren\u2019t earning returns on any money you invest. You only earn \u201creturns\u201d for your time and effort because you are <em>working<\/em>. You may have to invest some money to get your wholesaling business going, but that\u2019s not money you invest in the sense of straight investments.<\/p>\n<p>If I were to create a very short list of investing strategies, ranging from no work required to maximum amount of work required, I might come up with:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Notes\/REITs\/Syndications &gt; Rental Properties with Property Managers &gt; Landlording &gt; Rehabbing<\/p>\n<p>With all of these, what you are looking at is how much time you have to work on the strategy in order to make it work. And therefore, what portion of your profit is from the investment itself, and how much is payment for the work you put in?<\/p>\n<h2>Here&#8217;s an Example<\/h2>\n<p>Let\u2019s look at buying a turnkey rental property with property managers verses\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/guides\/brrrr-method\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">BRRRRing<\/a> a local property that you will landlord.<\/p>\n<p>You buy a turnkey rental property\u2014the rehab is completed by someone else, the tenants are already placed, and property managers manage the property once you own it. You pay $100,000 for it, which is roughly market value on the property.<\/p>\n<p>You buy a distressed property to <a href=\"\/renewsblog\/brrrr-buyrehabrentrefinancerepeatprimer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">BRRRR (buy-rehab-rent-refinance-repeat)<\/a>. Next, you rehab the property, place tenants in it, and then you are the landlord. Originally you bought the property for $50,000, and you did a $30,000 rehab. So you spent $80,000. The new value is $100,000. You now have $20,000 in immediate equity.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Related:<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"\/renewsblog\/million-dollar-property-portfolio-free\/\" target=\"_blank\">How We Got a Million-Dollar Property Portfolio for (Almost) Free<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>The bulk of the return\/profit on each property will come in the form of equity in the property\u2014and cash flow, once it\u2019s rented.<\/p>\n<p>On the equity side, it\u2019s clear that the BRRRR property has $20,000 more than the turnkey property. So you\u2019re up $20,000.<\/p>\n<p>On the cash flow side, both properties, in theory, bring in the same amount of cash flow. The returns are then technically higher on the BRRRR property because you&#8217;ve invested less money in it. If you are looking at the cap rate or the cash-on-cash return equations, the denominator on the BRRRR property is lower because you put less cash in\u2014so that makes the return higher.<\/p>\n<p>For help on running and calculating rental property numbers such as cap rates and cash-on-cash returns, check out <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/real-estate-math\" target=\"_blank\">Rental Property Numbers so Easy You Can Calculate Them on a Napkin<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s pretend the cash-on-cash return on the BRRRR property is 12 percent. Meanwhile, it\u2019s 8.5 percent on the turnkey property.<\/p>\n<p>In both cases\u2014equity and cash flow\u2014the BRRRR property wins the race. On the most basic level you have $20,000 in equity on that property and you are making 3.5 percent more cash flow per month.<\/p>\n<p>Now let\u2019s think backwards. Roughly how much time is, or was, required for each property?<\/p>\n<p>The turnkey rental property really only ever required you to spend time on due diligence during the purchase\u2014and then managing the manager once it\u2019s up and running. I\u2019ll say you spend roughly 15 hours during the escrow period doing due diligence. Then once you own it, you spend no more than five hours annually dealing with something involving the property manager or filing insurance claims or something. That is less than half an hour a month.<\/p>\n<p>The BRRRR property requires you to: find a property, negotiate the property, and then rehab the property. Finding the property and negotiating it may take you 15 hours. Rehabbing the property, at roughly a $30,000 level, may take you 60 hours. Then once you own it (and since you are the landlord) I\u2019ll estimate five hours per month tending to the property.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-98632\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/construction-job-labor-38293-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"702\" height=\"343\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/construction-job-labor-38293-1.jpg 702w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/construction-job-labor-38293-1-300x147.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>On the equity front, that $20,000 profit on the BRRRR required 75 hours of work. I would also argue that in addition to the 75 hours of work\u2014whether that be doing the physical labor yourself or tending to contractors\u2014there is also a level of headache, thought, and stress in conjunction with the work.<\/p>\n<p>On the cash flow front, an added 3.5 percent of cash flow is in exchange for 4.5 hours of increased labor (landlording) over the .5 hours for managing the property manager. Headache, thought, and stress are also likely in conjunction with the work.<\/p>\n<p>Going back to my original statement at the very beginning of the article\u2014neither strategy is wrong. Which one is correct for you depends on your personal goals and interest levels.<\/p>\n<p>If you take on a strategy that requires notable amounts of work, that\u2019s fine but realize this is actually work. So in the above examples, would you prefer to pocket an extra $20,000 and 3.5 percent per month in exchange for your full involvement in the project? Or would you prefer to pass on those monies in exchange for your freedom?<\/p>\n<p>Only you know the answer for yourself.<\/p>\n<h2>Motivation for the Analysis<\/h2>\n<p>In the past, I\u00a0have always invested in turnkey rental properties. Over the seven-or-so years that I\u2019ve owned them, I\u2019ve averaged about five hours per year working on them. When things are flowing fine, I spend almost no time on them annually. There have been a few times when I\u2019ve had property management drama and had to fire and rehire managers. So those years, I spent some more time on them. But even then, it was fairly minimal.<\/p>\n<p>When something goes wrong with the property, all I have to do is communicate with the property manager and make sure all is taken care of. But I&#8217;ve never had to rehab anything, place tenants, or call a plumber in the middle of the night.<\/p>\n<p>One time a storm hit one of the properties, and all I had to do was make one call to the insurance company to file the claim, give them the property manager\u2019s number to coordinate the visit, and that was it. (If you want to read more about that story, check out <em><a href=\"\/renewsblog\/2013\/06\/29\/property-managers-being-a-landlord\/\" target=\"_blank\">When I Prefer Property Managers over Being a Landlord<\/a><\/em>)<\/p>\n<p>Recently, some partners and I bought a duplex with a finished garage near where I live in Venice Beach, California. Guess who is the landlord? That\u2019d be me.<\/p>\n<p>The property was rent-ready and in great shape when we bought it, but it needed some small repairs done by a handyman. It also needed rodent treatment and termite treatment.<\/p>\n<p>I decided it would be a bright idea to spruce up the backyard with new plants and mulch. In the grand scheme of things, not a ton of work. But in the month since we bought it and I\u2019ve been trying to get it ready to list for rent, I have exhausted myself over the property. Almost every day, I\u2019ve been up earlier than I usually am. I\u2019m back and forth constantly from the property. I can\u2019t tell you how many times I\u2019ve lapped Home Depot and how many heavy bags of mulch I\u2019ve slung around\u2014and it\u2019s probably double the amount of labor hours that I\u2019ve spent thinking about the property in some manner. This is all before I\u2019ve even listed it for rent; and it didn\u2019t even need a rehab!<\/p>\n<p>For me, with the exception of this particular Venice property, sacrificing the $20,000 and 3.5 percent\/month is worth every penny if it means I don\u2019t have to think, or stress, or put effort into my investment properties. Maybe you are different, or maybe you have more skill and interest than I do in this field, but everyone should gauge where they are and what they want before deciding which projects to take on. Swimming upstream won\u2019t gain you more success!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/real-estate-investment-calculator?utm_source=renewsblog\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-91220\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/blog_ads-02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"85\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/blog_ads-02.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/blog_ads-02-300x36.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Let\u2019s poll the audience: Where does everyone fall on their investment vs. work preferences?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>And how has that affected your investing decisions? Share your insights and experiences below!<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Taking a deeper look at these two different real estate strategies will help you decide which is right for you and your financial and real estate goals.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":782,"featured_media":96814,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5524],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-98534","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-real-estate-investing-for-beginners"],"acf":[],"comment_count":0,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98534","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/782"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=98534"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98534\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/96814"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=98534"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=98534"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=98534"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}