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Posted almost 8 years ago

Part 1 - My Journey to REI...How I Decided on Turnkey

I want to begin documenting my journey in purchasing our first REI property. Hopefully this will not only help me better understand why I am doing what I am doing, but also help other people get started.If you have recommendations or questions for me please leave them in the comments or send me a PM

I guess I should start this out talking about who I am just a little. My wife and I are both active duty in the Air Force with no kids. Our goal is to spend another 11 years in the Air Force and retire with high enough income in retirement or low enough standard of living to not have to get another J.O.B. This doesn’t mean we don’t want to work, we just never want to feel like we HAVE to work.

My journey to REI really began about a month ago when my wife and I were on vacation in Chile. We love to travel. Actually, more accurately, we LIVE to travel. That’s what we would do if we weren’t working. I started listening to a Podcast about passive income on our drive through the Chilean Patagonia, and started brainstorming. What could I bring to market that would create passive income so we could travel whenever we want? I feel like I am a relatively creative person with good ideas, but I have yet to come up with anything worth selling to anyone. One Podcast, in particular got my attention. The person on this Podcast was discussing the subject of Buy-and-Hold REI. That’s when the light bulb went on.

When we got back home all I could think about was how to get started. I get pretty amped up about things and usually want to make decisions on emotion rather than spending my due diligence researching and “sleeping on it”. I have at times had this urge over the last month, when I see that property I think will create a decent ROI/Cash Flow. I am definitely glad I haven’t yet, because what I thought would’ve been a positive cash flow would most likely have been negative after learning about CapEx and vacancy rate and when really doing due diligence on the rental market in the area rather than finding one comp in the price range I wanted to get.

I work with someone who I knew was already pretty involved with REI so I started talking to him about my newly discovered passion. He quickly turned me on to BP. So far the biggest help throughout my journey has been the forums and blogs on BP. Also the BP beginner’s course was a tremendous help. If you are starting out in REI and not listening to the BP Podcast on the way to and from, when you take the dog out for walks, or when you are going on your run at lunch, then you are wasting that time. I am now in the process of reading the BP book “The Book on Rental Property Investing” and I can’t put it down when I start reading it.It’s not only very informative, it’s very well written and entertaining. Right now, a month into my journey, I am still having that itch to buy something now. However, than itch is slightly being overtaken by the desire to learn as much as possible about making a smart investment first.

Developing my strategy and niche has been another journey. I know I wanted to start with buy and hold based on our goals to supplement our retirement income in about 11 years when we retire. My wife and I have discussed buying a vacation property for a while so short-term rentals have been something I’ve looked into. When I sit down and think about everything that would go into this it seems like a lot of work getting to set up a fully furnished place and to constantly turn new tenants. Even with a property management company, it just seems like a lot of work. I also started looking into SFHs around the Colorado Springs area where we live, but haven’t found properties I can get the numbers to really work on. Another niche I’ve looked into is SFHs in markets I am familiar with, but currently not within driving range.The numbers worked a little better in some of these markets but not being able to see the house and doing everything required to acquire and fill a property out of state seemed daunting for my first REI purchase.

I probably bounced back and forth on the above niches multiple times, but one niche (not mentioned above) seemed to standout, and I think I ready to peruse it on the next level. This niche for us is turnkey properties. These give us the potential to create the extra income in 11 years, using properties in markets with good buy/rent ratios, with a lot less headaches of other niches. Turnkey is not without its own set of issues and I understand that we still need to do our due diligence when deciding on the turnkey company we use, the market we buy in, and the house we chose to purchase, but in our current circumstance it has stood out as the niche that we should explore.

I’ll end the first post here. In the posts to follow I’ll focus on our journey to find the right company to work with, selecting the property, and deciding on the financing for it. Again please feel free to comment or PM me if you have any suggestion or questions.



Comments (14)

  1. Great post Kyle!!  I wish you all the best.


  2. Great Job. We should chat! Whats life after TKs... bigger and better.


  3. @Michael Brito Jr. Thanks for the compliment.  I just put Part 2 up yesterday. https://www.biggerpockets.com/blogs/8313/49783-par...


  4. Great post. I'm wondering into that area of real estate investing too. I see a lot of feedback in regards to turn key in Memphis. It seems to be a popular area that people are investing in. I've been hearing about Memphis from a lot of people lately. I hope to hear more of your venture in this area of investment and wish you all the luck. Keep us posted.


  5. @Kyle Myers, way to go!  I've got the same balancing act going on in my head as well.  The thirst for more knowledge vs the desire to just get going!  Thanks for your post.  Now it's time to analyze a deal and look into turnkey!  Good luck and please let us know how it goes.  


  6. Congratulations on getting started!  We have three turnkey properties.  The model gets a lot of flak from many hard core investors, but it works for us.  Just make sure you do due diligence on the company who actually owns, rehabs and manages the property. In some cases, like Memphis Invest, they are the sellers. Other groups are marketers and do not actually touch the property.  If you work with a marketing company, make sure you get them AND the actual seller.


  7. Kyle, 

    I'm on the same path. I'm working with Norada Real Estate and First Premiere Properties in Memphis.  I'm going to Memphis next month to meet the team, view properties, and get to know the area. I'll be buying my first property in July.  If it goes well, I'll buy another one in December. 


  8. @Kyle Myers I dont know if you can swing it but if you know you're moving soon and can find a good duplex/triplex go for it with your VA loan then when you get orders to move again, I think you can refi then pull a VA loan again in your new place. 


  9. My husband was in the Navy when I met him and we had a baby within the first year of our marriage, so he wasn't as open to my crazy real estate ideas.  However, if I were to do it again, I would have pushed harder to purchase a duplex or four-plex with a VA loan as our first investment property.  That, in my opinion, would have been an ideal way to get into REI.


  10. Way to go! I favor turnkey as the best fit for my life situation with goals similar to yours, and after researching this and interviewing other investors for the past nine months as part of my due diligence, I'm ready to take the plunge - I decided to go with Memphis Invest, probably the best company in the turnkey niche industry. I'm talking to them today about my first purchase. This was after attending one of their annual events in Dallas and verifying they are legit and offer the best service. Good luck!


  11. @Dave Simpson,

    Thanks for all the great feedback.  I have looked into small MFHs, and will probably go that route when we move cities in less than a year, using a VA or FHA loan to finance it.  For now though, Turnkey seems like a great passive way to start.  I think turnkey can help people avoid getting into that trap of always feeling the need to "learn more".  If you find a good turnkey company they will help you learn along the way, where as if you do it yourself you may always feel that you do not know enough.


  12. Kyle,

    Have you ever thought about  making your first purchase a duplex or a triplex in the area in which you live?  You could purchase something like that, live in I t for a while, and  get a chance to make some "mistakes" by which you could learn the ropes.  By purchasing a unit and moving into it, (interest rates are lowest when you live in the property you are purchasing) you can take advantage of the low interest rates and not have to worry about paying rent again. 

     Also, be sure not to get into the trap of always wanting to learn "just a little more" before  jumping in and making an official purchase.  It is possible to analyze and never make a purchasing decision. 

     My son was in the Air Force and decided that wasn't for him after 10 years of service.  I tried to get him interested in purchasing real estate to supplement his income almost from the beginning.  He's now in private life, but still looking for that "first" property to purchase. 

     Anyway, you have a grand adventure ahead of you.  I have just over 100 units now, and wish I had started 20 years sooner.  You are in the right place (BP) to get the information that you need to make informed decisions. 

     Good luck, - I will be following your progress iad you continue on this adventure. 

    Dave (Salem, OR)


  13. Be careful with the turnkey companies.  In my experience their evaluation of neighborhood quality is not accurate.  You'll pay market rate (or slightly above) in a C or C+ area.  In my opinion these are terrible deals.  I'm an out of state investor focusing on KC/Independence MO, and have gotten to know the area relatively well through realtors in the area.  I've been having success there and now have 4 properties in my first year and closing on a 5th this month.  My criteria are very strict and my returns have been very stable.


  14. @Kyle Myers - congrats on taking the plunge and getting started with REI!   I dont' know a whole heap about turnkey investing - so i'll be sure to check back and see how things shake out for you guys!  Good luck!