Refinance or HELOC?
Hello, purchase our first property it is a townhome in September 2022, using down payment assistance with 3.5% down, conventional with 6% interest. Built in 2006, we got it for 175k and it was listed and valued at 191k. HOA fee of 150$ a month. It was in bad shape cosmetically such as paint, terrible dog smell from carpets, no window screens, etc.. owner inherited it as their child had passed away so wanted to get rid of it. It is in a developing neighborhood with new townhomes across the street being sold for 300k and up. It is a 2 bedroom 1 and a half bath, 2 car garage, washer and dryer with an unfinished basement that is already insulated. We made cosmetic repairs such as painting, laminate flooring in living room instead of carpet, new vinyl in bathrooms and kitchen, new carpet, and added ceiling fans in the rooms.
The estimated ARV if we were to add another bedroom and bath is 250k, which is the plan.
My dad is a contractor so he would help me in doing so and gave me a low and high end for the cost of materials, plumbing/electrical, etc.
We don't have the funds currently to move forward with the plan but figured since we started out with equity, what would be a good strategy? I am thinking should we use some of the equity we have to fund the add on and refinance after paying for another appraisal and the value of the house increasing? My end goal would be to make some profit to use towards a down payment on a rental property in the future.
If it were me, I would hold on to that house and save up your money. If I lived there two years, I would sell.
I would sell at the 2 year mark, and I would move into another owner occupied house, that I could house-hack and rent out a unit or a room. I'd improve that house, and stay there for 2 years.
That was similar to the start of my journey, and I would do it all over again. I didn't house hack, and we bought our first house when we were stationed in England. But the rest is house we did it, slow and steady. Read my bio to see the rest of the story...
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Hello, purchase our first property it is a townhome in September 2022, using down payment assistance with 3.5% down, conventional with 6% interest. Built in 2006, we got it for 175k and it was listed and valued at 191k. HOA fee of 150$ a month. It was in bad shape cosmetically such as paint, terrible dog smell from carpets, no window screens, etc.. owner inherited it as their child had passed away so wanted to get rid of it. It is in a developing neighborhood with new townhomes across the street being sold for 300k and up. It is a 2 bedroom 1 and a half bath, 2 car garage, washer and dryer with an unfinished basement that is already insulated. We made cosmetic repairs such as painting, laminate flooring in living room instead of carpet, new vinyl in bathrooms and kitchen, new carpet, and added ceiling fans in the rooms.
The estimated ARV if we were to add another bedroom and bath is 250k, which is the plan.
My dad is a contractor so he would help me in doing so and gave me a low and high end for the cost of materials, plumbing/electrical, etc.
We don't have the funds currently to move forward with the plan but figured since we started out with equity, what would be a good strategy? I am thinking should we use some of the equity we have to fund the add on and refinance after paying for another appraisal and the value of the house increasing? My end goal would be to make some profit to use towards a down payment on a rental property in the future.
I don't believe you'll have built enough equity to do a HELOC, and also, for a cash out refi, you'd need to wait at least 6-months since you purchased the home (seasoning period). Depending on which day it closed in September, you may be be able to cash out refi in March, but Fannie/Freddie have changed their guidelines to make it a 12-month seasoning period to pull cash out now.
Run your #s to see if the amount invested adding a bed/bath is worth it. Are you gaining much extra equity compared to the cost of doing it?
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Quote from @Kerry Baird:Thanks for taking the time to share your experience and answer my question! Definitely will take this route into consideration
If it were me, I would hold on to that house and save up your money. If I lived there two years, I would sell.
I would sell at the 2 year mark, and I would move into another owner occupied house, that I could house-hack and rent out a unit or a room. I'd improve that house, and stay there for 2 years.
That was similar to the start of my journey, and I would do it all over again. I didn't house hack, and we bought our first house when we were stationed in England. But the rest is house we did it, slow and steady. Read my bio to see the rest of the story...
@Eric Yu thanks for the reply Eric! Definitely didn’t realize the seasoning period changed to cash out refi, my dad ran an estimate and said it would probably be around 10-15k range depending on electrical/plumbing, material etc. Since we got it about 15k under asking price at 175k where it was valued at 191k (before we made cosmetic repairs) I think it’d be worth it since the comps range from 250-350k.