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The good, the bad, and the ugly

David Mesteth
Posted Jan 25 2023, 10:15

Can Someone educate me more on what a good, bad , and ugly deal look like numbers wise? TIA. I want to get the best understanding and I believe this group is the place to get it!

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Replied Jan 25 2023, 11:13

Hm. Well a good deal is generally 70% of ARV less repairs.

A bad deal is anything anything you lose money on. 

An ugly deal is something you lose more than money, you lose your will to keep going; maybe you get sued, maybe you buy a house at an auction with a mortgage on it, maybe you skip getting insurance to save money and the place burns down, etc. 

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Replied Jan 25 2023, 12:53
Quote from @Nick C.:

Hm. Well a good deal is generally 70% of ARV less repairs.

A bad deal is anything anything you lose money on. 

An ugly deal is something you lose more than money, you lose your will to keep going; maybe you get sued, maybe you buy a house at an auction with a mortgage on it, maybe you skip getting insurance to save money and the place burns down, etc. 


 great answer.!

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ModeratorReplied Jan 26 2023, 04:52
Quote from @David Mesteth:

Can Someone educate me more on what a good, bad , and ugly deal look like numbers wise? TIA. I want to get the best understanding and I believe this group is the place to get it!


Are you flipping? Long-term hold? Short-term rental? There are different performance numbers of each. For a long-term rental, I'm generally looking for something with positive cashflow and a 12% return or better.

Here's a guide that describes what good cash flow looks like and how to analyze a property.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

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