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Brian Plajer
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How do you verify rent roll?

Brian Plajer
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Posted Jan 17 2022, 08:03

Hello,

When reviewing a multifamily property and the current rent is listed how do you verify that the current tenants are actually paying their rent? Anyone can create a spreadsheet. I often hear about the rent roll but how do know its legit and is there any recourse if it turns out to be fake

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Dylan Whitcher
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Replied Jan 17 2022, 08:10

Hey Brian! This is a great question. I am familiar with the process of commercial real estate where a CRM and management company is in place, usually receiving bank statements or deposit information from the bank through the online payment software. However, I am not familiar with smaller acquisitions. I am commenting to follow this thread in hopes of an answer! Have a great one! 

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Replied Jan 17 2022, 09:25

@Brian Plajer for starters you can compare it to a bank statement. Do several months. You can also use Estoppel Certs. 

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Replied Jan 17 2022, 12:28

Brian - I would true up the rent roll with the last 12 and 24 months P&L provided by the seller. For a seller using software to manage the building/property they should easily be able to provide that information once in due diligence. Also, during due diligence you should be able to get the last few bank statements as well as the high level information from tax filings from the seller. If the revenues don't appear to match the expectations set by the rent roll I would definitely inquire. And, as mentioned by Bjorn I would get each of the tenants to sign an Estoppel Certificate which should confirm the rent they are paying as well as the security deposit they paid to the current seller. Good Luck!

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Replied Jan 17 2022, 12:46

Thanks guys!  I must have listened to over 400 podcasts and read many books and this is where I learn of the Estoppel certificate. Love these forums. 

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Spencer Gray
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Replied Jan 17 2022, 12:48

You do a lease / file audit during your DD period in addition to a physical inspection of any many units as possible (ideally 100%). The rent roll is usually off by a little, even if it just unaccounted for pets. 

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Toben B.
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Replied Jan 17 2022, 13:52

I did it by reading all the leases. I found some minor deposit amounts that were different but otherwise it was fine. 

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Replied Jan 17 2022, 14:04

@Brian Plajer you and me both when it comes to Estoppel!

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Replied Jan 18 2022, 00:14

We have tenants sign an estoppel certificate and cross reference their estoppel, to their lease, and any rent increase notices. 

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Replied Jan 18 2022, 06:03
Originally posted by @Joshua McIntire:

We have tenants sign an estoppel certificate and cross reference their estoppel, to their lease, and any rent increase notices. 

 Same! A general estoppel agreement helps clarify a lot of information - utilities, who owns appliances, rent, deposit, etc. 

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Replied Jan 18 2022, 07:03

@Brian Plajer for larger multi-family, I recommend:

1. Do a physical lease audit where you review each lease document and cross-reference it with the rent toll.

2. As for a bank ledger or bank deposit report (most software packages like Realpage, Yardi and Resman will have these as standard reports). You could ask for bank statements to verify deposits, but I find some sellers are a little leary for that.

3. Ask for a "delinquency and pre-paid" report showing all the amounts owed and paid in advance.

4. If you have any folks on a housing benefits program, I would get an understanding of that as well.

Verifying the rent roll is an important step but just one of many steps in the DD process. If you message me your email address, I can send you a due diligence template we use.