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John Kim
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[CALC] $80k on $1.3M cash deal for 4 family Jersey city

John Kim
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Posted Nov 1 2022, 20:04

In my local area (Jersey City, NJ), 5% caps have been the norm.  

I'm eyeing a 6% cap paying full cash.  Historically, I would finance as much as possible, but obviously 6% cap in an 8% borrowing environment is nonsensical.

$1.3M purchase price

$9100 gross rent

- taxes $17K

- water $2500

- insurance $3000

- 2% historical vacancy

- $6000/yr repair/capex

- In this area, tenants pay for broker fees.

- NYC views, rents are slightly under market. Each unit is very large for the area. 

- I currently manage my own property (mostly passive - snow, drain clogs)

Unit B. - $1000 (1bed/1bath) Possibly $1500 after $10k reno

Unit 1 - $3000 (4bed/2bath,1500sqft) Possibly $3500 after $30k reno

Unit 2 - $2800 (4 bed 2bath,1500sqft) Possibly $3500 after $30k reno

Unit 3 - $2100 (3 bed 1 bath,1200sqft) Possibly $2500 after $20k reno

$150 parking + some coin laundry revenue

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Net $80k/yr with decent upside post renovation.

6% cap as-is

7% cap upside.

Curious what you guys think.  This is my 2nd multifamily near NYC/NJ.  I have owned the first one since 2016 and it has been relatively stress free and passive income.

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Bjorn Ahlblad
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Replied Nov 1 2022, 23:22

It has a lot to do with your exit strategy. If you plan to hold for a short period probably not good. I had California properties that rarely cash flowed but I held them for 30 years and when I sold them BaBang! Cash flow will cover the bills, appreciation can make you wealthy! 

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Khari F.
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Replied Nov 2 2022, 00:03

Why is ”6% cap in an 8% borrowing environment is nonsensical”?

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John Kim
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John Kim
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Replied Nov 2 2022, 06:50
Quote from @Bjorn Ahlblad:

It has a lot to do with your exit strategy. If you plan to hold for a short period probably not good. I had California properties that rarely cash flowed but I held them for 30 years and when I sold them BaBang! Cash flow will cover the bills, appreciation can make you wealthy! 


 I plan to 20 year hold minimum.  6% is the best i can find.  I do wonder if caps will surge soon due to a pending crash

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Jaron Walling
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Replied Nov 2 2022, 06:54

@John Kim "I do wonder if caps will surge soon due to a pending crash" - I wouldn't bank on that statement. Just my 2 cents. 

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Sebastian Hernandez
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Sebastian Hernandez
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Replied Nov 2 2022, 07:05

Seems like a solid deal

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Rick Martin
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Rick Martin
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Replied Nov 2 2022, 08:33

Everything looks good, but I would be nervous underwriting 2% vacancy. Does this consider turn/make ready time? It doesn't leave any margin.

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Replied Nov 2 2022, 18:19
Quote from @Khari F.:

Why is ”6% cap in an 8% borrowing environment is nonsensical”?


 Looks like the deal would be losing money.