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How To Get A Loan When You Can’t

Ezra Henderson
  • Wadsworth, OH
Posted Jun 13 2022, 12:53

Hey BP,

Normally when I get a loan for an investment property I am able to get a DSCR loan without a problem… however now I'm looking to buy a duplex that I'm going to house hack, and it seems like it isn't possible to get a DSCR loan if I'm going to be living on part of the property.

I’m self employed, but only have been for a year, so I don’t have proof of income for 2 years. Is there any way for me to get a loan without having to provide proof of income? 

I have plenty of money for any sized down payment, and good credit, but even so I don’t know if I would be able to qualify for any loan with out proof of income. 

Does anyone have any thoughts or advice other then seller financing?

Thanks!!


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Andrew Garcia
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Andrew Garcia
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 12:58

Hi @Ezra Henderson, I know a lender that can do a DSCR program for house hacks.

Let's connect so I can share the info.

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Patrick Drury
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Patrick Drury
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 13:04

@Ezra Henderson
Using hard money would be your only other option if you can't use a DSCR loan. It's not ideal because the terms are typically shorter and you would have to refi in about 6 months-1 year as well as the interest rates are higher, but that's about the only option you have aside from having a parent take the loan out for you.

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Issac San Miguel
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Issac San Miguel
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 13:05

A lof of HMLs won't do owner occupied, just FYI.

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Ezra Henderson
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 13:43

@Patrick Drury  I don’t mind using hard money temporarily, but are the refinancing rules different then just applying for a normal loan? Or would I still have to show proof of income. Thanks!

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Issac San Miguel
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Issac San Miguel
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 13:45

For HMLs you do not need to show proof of income, just liquidity. Typically enough for 6 month's of interest payments and 10% of the rehab holdback, if there is one.

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Ezra Henderson
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 13:49

Yeah but I’m talking about refinancing out of the hard money loan and into normal financing after 6 months to 1 year… when I refinance with a bank will I have to show proof of income?

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Issac San Miguel
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 13:50
Quote from @Ezra Henderson:

Yeah but I’m talking about refinancing out of the hard money loan and into normal financing after 6 months to 1 year… when I refinance with a bank will I have to show proof of income?

dscr will use the rental income to qualify. 

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Ezra Henderson
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Ezra Henderson
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 13:52

But if I refinance out of a HML and into a more conventional loan (not DSCR) will I have to show proof of income?

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Dave Skow
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 13:55

@Ezra Henderson  - possible to line up a relative  to be a non occupnat  co borrower  ?  2) there are  some conventional loans that  might  work with one year of tax returns  3)  when reporting  tax returns - try to  show  as  much positive  net  income as possible 

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Patrick Drury
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 14:05

@Ezra Henderson
I would consult a lender or a hard money lender in your area and ask them your questions. They will be able to best help you!

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Steven Foster Wilson
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Replied Jun 13 2022, 14:24
Quote from @Ezra Henderson:

Hey BP,

Normally when I get a loan for an investment property I am able to get a DSCR loan without a problem… however now I'm looking to buy a duplex that I'm going to house hack, and it seems like it isn't possible to get a DSCR loan if I'm going to be living on part of the property.

I’m self employed, but only have been for a year, so I don’t have proof of income for 2 years. Is there any way for me to get a loan without having to provide proof of income? 

I have plenty of money for any sized down payment, and good credit, but even so I don’t know if I would be able to qualify for any loan with out proof of income. 

Does anyone have any thoughts or advice other then seller financing?

Thanks!!



 I agree with Patrick on the hard money loan. Is there anyone you could partner with? They get the loan, you put the money in and rehab? Do it however you can, it never hurts asking people.