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Kyle Donlea
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What kind of COC returns do you like to see in Multi Family ( duplex- Quad)

Kyle Donlea
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Posted Jan 15 2023, 10:37

I am looking into a Duplex in the Minneapolis area and based on my max allowable offer my cash on cash return would be around 4.5%. 

What is your COC return goal for a Multi Family property?

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Nathan Gesner
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ModeratorReplied Jan 16 2023, 04:38
Quote from @Kyle Donlea:

I wouldn't invest in anything for less than 12% unless there were an appreciation factor at play.

Why bother with the stress of tenants only to get a return lower than you would get with a basic mutual fund?


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Steve Vaughan#1 Personal Finance Contributor
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Steve Vaughan#1 Personal Finance Contributor
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Replied Jan 16 2023, 05:47
Quote from @Kyle Donlea:

What is your COC return goal for a Multi Family?

Leveraged 12%+, cash ROE 7%+. 

in expensive markets I shoot for equity capture at the buy of 12%.

2 yr treasuries risk and hassle free are paying 4%.   No way I'm messing with RE and tenants for less than 3x risk-free returns.



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Lien Vuong
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Replied Jan 16 2023, 05:59

I'm looking at 8-12%+ CoC opportunities, if your limit ables, I would suggest that you increase your unit count to 3+ units for better economies of scale.

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Replied Jan 16 2023, 14:05

11% minimum return, comprised of 6% cap, 3% appreciation, 2% loan paydown

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Daniel Anshus
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Replied Jan 22 2023, 16:29

@Kyle Donlea if your COC is 4.5% can you increase it? Are you able to add value, bedrooms etc? I have bought properties below my 10% COC requirements because I know I can add money and increase value and rents. I bought my duplex for 465,000 but currently rent 1 side for a little below market at $2,100 and will most likely midterm rent my side if I ever move out and make 5-7,000 a month on that side (during the summer). If you are not working with a realtor reach out and I can help you with this

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Todd Goedeke
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Replied Feb 4 2023, 21:39

@Kyle Donlea with a duplex STVR I would want the management company to pay me 10% of my purchase price of property in lease payments to allow me to earn 18%+ Cash on Cash after putting 20% down. Management company pays for prop tax, insurance and interior maintenance. Also they pay for furnishings.