Section 8 Question

[Gene Paniccia]

I recently purchased a property in Cleveland. I found a tenant with a Section 8 voucher. Yesterday, I got my rental offer from CMHA. The offer is for $1,442.00. The tenant is responsible for $87.00. I'm being told, from someone with Section 8 tenants, that I can ask the tenant to pay me more than the $87.00. This would be in a separate agreement from the lease.

Is this true? Is this legal? 

I'm erring on the side of caution that this wouldn't be allowed. 

[James Wise]

Quote from @Gene Paniccia:

I recently purchased a property in Cleveland. I found a tenant with a Section 8 voucher. Yesterday, I got my rental offer from CMHA. The offer is for $1,442.00. The tenant is responsible for $87.00. I'm being told, from someone with Section 8 tenants, that I can ask the tenant to pay me more than the $87.00. This would be in a separate agreement from the lease.

Is this true? Is this legal? 

I'm erring on the side of caution that this wouldn't be allowed. 

 lol, no not allowed. 

[Gene Paniccia]

Didn’t think so. 
Thank you! 

[James Wise]

Quote from @Gene Paniccia:

Didn’t think so. 
Thank you! 

 Yessir.....Avoid taking any landlord advice from that dude.

[Travis Biziorek]

I don't know about Ohio, but I assume it's the same as in Michigan.

That is not legal.

[Drew Sygit]

@Gene Paniccia  read the HAP contract. It states that side deals are a violation of the contract.

[David Krulac]

its against HUD rules to acept money under the table. If they find out HUD will kick both you and the tenant out of the program. HUD publishes the Median Fair Market Rent on their web site for the entire country. So you can know what they will pay before even advertising your rental. web site is HUDuser.org look for FMR, Fair Marlet rent

[Bob Stevens]

Quote from @Gene Paniccia:

I recently purchased a property in Cleveland. I found a tenant with a Section 8 voucher. Yesterday, I got my rental offer from CMHA. The offer is for $1,442.00. The tenant is responsible for $87.00. I'm being told, from someone with Section 8 tenants, that I can ask the tenant to pay me more than the $87.00. This would be in a separate agreement from the lease.

Is this true? Is this legal? 

I'm erring on the side of caution that this wouldn't be allowed. 

 100% NO! I have been working with CMHA for 10 years, 100s of move in and outs ,I deal with them weekly, so I am not speculating, 

[Bob Stevens]

Quote from @Gene Paniccia:

I recently purchased a property in Cleveland. I found a tenant with a Section 8 voucher. Yesterday, I got my rental offer from CMHA. The offer is for $1,442.00. The tenant is responsible for $87.00. I'm being told, from someone with Section 8 tenants, that I can ask the tenant to pay me more than the $87.00. This would be in a separate agreement from the lease.

Is this true? Is this legal? 

I'm erring on the side of caution that this wouldn't be allowed. 

 You need to hire a PM, co ASAP, 

[Gene Paniccia]

Thanks for all the replies. 

[John Morgan]

Some housing authorities don’t pay you market rent. So I can see why some do side deals. But most pay at least market rent so no need to ask for $ on the side. I’ve got two houses with sec 8 in AR that won’t pay me market rent. I may have to kick them out so I can at least get market rent. It’s frustrating, but I understand they have low funding.

[Francesco Ponticelli]

Nope. I had my last 2 tenant with partial contribution and you can't change that. 

[Bob Stevens]

Quote from @Gene Paniccia:

I recently purchased a property in Cleveland. I found a tenant with a Section 8 voucher. Yesterday, I got my rental offer from CMHA. The offer is for $1,442.00. The tenant is responsible for $87.00. I'm being told, from someone with Section 8 tenants, that I can ask the tenant to pay me more than the $87.00. This would be in a separate agreement from the lease.

Is this true? Is this legal? 

I'm erring on the side of caution that this wouldn't be allowed. 

 100% NO! You canNOT  take more than the approved amount