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Sidro Felix
Investor from San Pedro, California

posted over 3 years ago

Hi Everyone I'd love your input.  I'm excited and nervous.  After looking and looking for something to invest in as a rental that cashflows in Los Angeles at no avail.  I decided to take the jump into out of state investing. I chose Cincinnati.  My criteria was 2 to 4 units c+ or better. Close to turnkey (as my 1st. Investment out of state I didn't want a big remodel project).  Here are the numbers and details:   

Duplex both 2bedroom units purchased @$200k 25% down 4.5% 30yr fixed

 Total initial Investment $59k includes dwn payment loan fees and M&R needed

Total monthly expenses including piti- maintenance- vac ex- cap ex- $1090

Rents are $900 +$950= $1850. Annual cash flow = $9120. SO MY ROI IS 15.5%

Please feel free to tell me if I'm missing or overlooking anything thank you. Im new to Bigger Pockets but I've been listening and reading.  Just quick intro on me I own Two rentals in LA I bought back in 2002 (1 triplex 1 sfh) they've been great to me, but I've been just sitting on the sidelines since. Thanks✊

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replied over 3 years ago

@Sidro Felix welcome to BP bud.  It sounds like you already did the deal so it is a little late to ask questions about it.  First off the price sounds pretty high for a C+ property.  You should use the member locator and find some folks on BP who are not connected to your seller and have them look at the property and neighborhood and give you their input.  You should have gotten an independent home inspection to give you an idea of it's condition and possible repairs needed.  At that price it should be pretty well updated.  You  insurance costs, estimated maintenance costs, repairs.  What kind of shingles does it have and how old etc.  The rental prices do not look too good compared to the cost of buying.  I find it hard to believe you cannot find better than a 1% deal in Ohio.  Again I do not know anything about your property, but it looks very high priced to me.  Either way good luck bud.

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Sidro Felix
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replied over 3 years ago
Thanks you. I apologize, I have not purchased it. I want to out an offer in this weekend. and it's in a B+ neighborhood (my criteria was c+ or better). I find 1%+ or better but they seem to be in need of not maintenance &repair.
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Steve Kontos
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replied over 3 years ago

@Sidro Felix

While I have nothing against turnkey properties, my advice to you is to attend your local REI clubs and talk with someone who has successfully done out of state investing. I would learn the ropes a little more than ultimately decide the best approach.Best of luck!

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Sidro Felix
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also I did have my contact in Cincinnati who is a contractor I grew up with who moved to Cincinnati go do a walk through inspection with my Realtor. That's how we came up with the amount needed to freshen it up and minor repairs needed. Its in a nice residential area mostly professionals.
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Jake Walroth
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replied over 3 years ago

What neighborhood? 

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Sidro Felix
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replied over 3 years ago
@Jake Walroth Kennedy Heights.
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Jake Walroth
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replied over 3 years ago

Ah nice.... what other areas are you looking to invest... I may be able to help if you're looking to add more multi-s to your portfolio.... think I can get you some higher returns as well. 

PM if you'd like to discuss further. 

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Sidro Felix
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@Jake Walroth great I will. thanks
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DL Martin
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replied over 3 years ago

Hey Sidro;

Make sure that you are not looking at this through Californicated eyes. 

$200K / $1,850 rent = $100k / $925 rent = $50k / $462 rent

You can't be paying $50k to get $462 rent in Cincinnati. 

$50k in Cincinnati needs to be bringing $800 per month in rent. 

And Kennedy Heights cannot be considered B class. 

Deer Park, some parts of Pleasant Ridge maybe B class. 

Kennedy Heights, Silverton, Madisonville? No way B class. 

DL

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Sidro Felix
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@DLmartin thanks very helpful. I was ready to put my offer in today. But after some productive conversations with some BP members I've decided I'm going to keep looking. Also take a trip out there. Thanks BP fam
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