California Markets for Newbie Investor
11 Replies
Leilani Leszkay
posted about 2 months ago
Hi! I'm super new to real estate and doing lots of research, and want to get started on investing in 2021 hopefully. I live in LA, and don't have anywhere near the amount needed to buy property here. I work remotely, so I'm looking to move somewhere else, preferably in Ca though. I'm also open to possibly Oregon or Arizona that are good places to start researching for towns that are growing. looking for recommendations or thoughts, any advice is appreciated. :)
Updated about 2 months ago
I should also note that I'm looking to start investing with 20k and would love to connect with others for meetups virtually :)
Melanie Johnston
Real Estate Agent from Scottsdale, AZ
replied about 2 months ago
Hi @Leilani Leszkay . Congrats on being enthusiastic about investing and wanting to get started. Arizona is attracting a lot of Californians who are looking to move here and/or invest.
Besides being a strong market with a diversified economy, Metro Phoenix is a fun place to live with lots of outdoor activities and opportunities to enjoy the sun. With your investment budget of $20,000, you might want to get started doing a househack.
Moving here and buying a place, where you can rent out one or two rooms, would help you build equity and potentially cover your complete mortgage payment. Having lived here since 1981, I know a lot of great areas and pocket neighborhoods that offer value for your investment.
Melanie
Justin Lester
replied about 2 months ago
There is a lot of opportunity in Oregon
Which is best depends much on your desired strategy and risk aversion...
Shannon Robnett
Developer from Boise, ID
replied about 2 months ago
@Justin Lester and I think that can be said for so many markets honestly! It all comes down to networking until you have a sufficient comfort level and then deploying your selected strategY! Best of luck to you in your search @Leilani Leszkay !
Leilani Leszkay
replied about 2 months ago
@Melanie Johnston thanks so much! I’ve visited Phoenix and this is definitely an interesting idea! I’m thinking house hacking is where I’ll start. Thanks again!
Leilani Leszkay
replied about 2 months ago
@Justin Lester thanks! I love Oregon, my sister lives in Ashland, & was looking around there, but I’m open. I’m thinking house hacking makes sense for my start, or renting via Airbnb. I’m probably about in the muddle for risk aversion
Collin Chan
Investor from Dublin, CA
replied about 1 month ago
My recommendation is to read up on FHA loans so you can put 3.5% down. Then house hack all the other rooms out to cover your mortgage. With that low down you can get a nice house in AZ and find one with the most rooms you can fit (target $50k/room). You might need to convert a loft or den in the floor plan to get those rooms but it can help you cashflow!
Rick Albert
Real Estate Agent from Los Angeles, CA
replied about 1 month ago
You can buy in Los Angeles with $20K all-in. It would be a condo which may not be a bad investment as single family homes continue to get pricier, tenants have to go somewhere. My first house hack was a condo.
Leilani Leszkay
replied about 1 month ago
@Rick Albert wow really? I thought this was totally out of reach for me with my amount! I'm definitely open to a condo situation. thanks so much :)
Leilani Leszkay
replied about 1 month ago
@Collin Chan I definitely will do some research on FHA loans. I've done a little, but thank you for the reminder! this is very helpful info! can I ask what you mean by "target $50k/room"? is this the goal you'd want to meet for renting out the other rooms in the house per year?
Collin Chan
Investor from Dublin, CA
replied about 1 month ago
Originally posted by @Leilani Leszkay :@Collin Chan I definitely will do some research on FHA loans. I've done a little, but thank you for the reminder! this is very helpful info! can I ask what you mean by "target $50k/room"? is this the goal you'd want to meet for renting out the other rooms in the house per year?
Yup, so for a 5bedroom house, target 250k. This might be a stretch now with prices going up in 2020 but I've seen some new construction still at 370k as I started looking last night after reading your post. I just ran the quick Redfin calculator with 3.5% down.
Mortgage $1612/mo
Property Tax $400/mo (maybe find another area since i've see property tax usually around $200/mo so might be some melaroos type taxes in certain neighborhoods)
PMI $224/mo
Homeowners insurance $99/mo
Total ~$2335/mo
With 5 bedrooms, try to rent out the Master ($600/mo) and 3 other rooms ($400/mo/each) and you can cover most of your basic expenses while you live in the 5th room. New construction can help minimize initial maintenance and replacement costs. It doesn't work out to free but your own portion of rent will be really low but you get the advantages of principle pay down, appreciation, tax writes offs (depreciation), etc.
Keep looking as there are deals that can net you 0 rent for yourself in the greater Phoenix surrounding area. Try to find value add also like lofts, dens, or third car garage you can convert later to add bedroom. A loft or Den conversion will only cost you 5-10k in AZ but can increase your cashflow another $400/mo as well as forcing appreciation through adding the bedroom.
PM me if you want to chat more.
Collin