Provo investment property - to BYU or not to BYU?
11 Replies
Suha Lingam
posted almost 2 years ago
I'm looking to invest in a property in the Provo area. Should I invest in a BYU approved property or not? Pros/cons?
Chris H.
Rental Property Investor from Orem, UT
replied almost 2 years ago
That's a tough question, and I think the answer depends on a couple of factors. Do your numbers work? I've found that cashflowing properties in the BYU area are hard to come by. Have you rented to students before?
Suha Lingam
replied almost 2 years ago
I haven't rented to students before, so that's another learning curve. I currently have a rental SF home in South Jordan but wanted to invest in a high demand area. My numbers as far as ROI work. Any advice for renting to students?
Jeremiah Maughan
Investor from Provo, UT
replied almost 2 years ago
I have found that the cap rates for BYU-contracted housing are a full percentage point (or more) lower than standard housing. Out of state parents will often pay whatever for their kids to have a place, which inflates the prices above what market rents will support. Buying in Provo is a good idea because it is high demand, but I specifically steer my clients away from BYU-contracted housing unless they have a kid attending the university.
Be aware also that all landlords need to also go through a process of becoming BYU-contracted, use BYU leases, follow BYU housing guidelines etc. It's very different from standard property management. About 60 units of our property management company are BYU contracted, and we have a team specifically dedicated to only those.
Chris H.
Rental Property Investor from Orem, UT
replied almost 2 years ago
Agree with Jeremiah. If your numbers work for you, then great, but be aware that being contracted with BYU is a whole process. The student rentals we own are closer to UVU, which is nice because you don't have to deal with that but there is still high demand from an even larger school than BYU.
My advice is that you can make a little more in cash flow on student rentals, but they're more work. Instead of filling 1 contract, we have 3-4 spots to fill for each unit. In the past year I feel the game has changed for how these are advertised too - now there are Facebook groups where students post their criteria for a room and landlords come to them, so if you're an unknown landlord you spend a lot of time marketing. You also have to time your rentals so that you're signing contracts every Jan-Feb for the following year. That being said, it's a great niche to be in with a little bit higher earning potential. Just make sure your numbers work and you should be fine.
Suha Lingam
replied almost 2 years ago
Thank you, Jeremiah and Chris. I appreciate the input!
Nick Kazak
replied almost 2 years ago
I agree with Chris as student rentals are a bit different game and requires more attention and it will have higher turner over; and more hustle and time consuming on this matter. Will require more marketing as well.
Nick Kazak
replied almost 2 years ago
I’ve two duplexes in center of Provo under contract - produce $4K amount gross rental income - please contract me if interested - thanks Nick
Jonathan Escobar
from Provo, UT
replied almost 2 years ago
Typically, from what I've heard from others here in Utah county, Provo is VERY VERY strict and you don't have very much freedom. Also, it's very hard to find something that will cash flow very high. The Price-to-rent ratio around here is about 0.3%-0.6% which is not very good. That is in comparison with the 2% rule (brandon turner calls it the 2% test) (can also be called the 1% test or the 0.5% test) But the main point is that the rules of thumb don't work here in Provo unless you can hustle and find a great deal off the market to someone who is very motivated to sell and you can buy something that is very below what the market is offering. Might also be a property that will require some work to be done on it so that you can force appreciation on the property to increase its value.
In my case, it's going to be even harder because I'm trying to house hack in provo/orem area. If I were to do it, I would have to find a spankin' deal or just find a property that will cost less than renting in the Provo area. Just some thoughts for you! :)
Jonathan Escobar
from Provo, UT
replied almost 2 years ago
Typically, from what I've heard from others here in Utah county, Provo is VERY VERY strict and you don't have very much freedom. Also, it's very hard to find something that will cash flow very high. The Price-to-rent ratio around here is about 0.3%-0.6% which is not very good. That is in comparison with the 2% rule (brandon turner calls it the 2% test) (can also be called the 1% test or the 0.5% test) But the main point is that the rules of thumb don't work here in Provo unless you can hustle and find a great deal off the market to someone who is very motivated to sell and you can buy something that is very below what the market is offering. Might also be a property that will require some work to be done on it so that you can force appreciation on the property to increase its value.
In my case, it's going to be even harder because I'm trying to house hack in provo/orem area. If I were to do it, I would have to find a spankin' deal or just find a property that will cost less than renting in the Provo area. Just some thoughts for you! :)