File an insurance claim, or not?
9 Replies
Roger S.
Investor from TX
posted over 3 years ago
I have a house I just evicted a renter from. Found out that the floor in the house is buckling. I crawled under the house and found standing water. I turned all the faucets off and the meter still spins very slowly.
Looks like I'm going to be tearing up the floors and sublorrs in the kitchen and living room, and replacing some plumbing. This nothing I can't do myself, but isnt this why we pay for insurance?
I have 11 houses, all insured with the same company I've had 3 claims in the past 2 years. Am I running any risk of being dropped or my rate raised dramatically by filing a claim on this?
JD Martin
(Moderator) -
Rock Star Extraordinaire from Northeast, TN
replied over 3 years ago
Depends on the amount of damage. They're not going to cover the plumbing issue but they would/should cover the floors.
Roger S.
Investor from TX
replied over 3 years ago
Yeah, but would you file the claim?
JD Martin
(Moderator) -
Rock Star Extraordinaire from Northeast, TN
replied over 3 years ago
Originally posted by @Roger S. :@Jd Martin,
Yeah, but would you file the claim?
Depends on the amount of damage. My deductibles are 1%, so for example on one of my properties the deductible would be $1300. One room with laminate might be $1000, so there you go. No point filing unless A) your damage exceeds the deductible, B) you expect to find additional damage later that may be covered, or C) you expect the tenant is responsible and they have insurance that can be abrogated against.
Joe J.
Investor from Los Angeles, California
replied over 3 years ago
@Roger S. Water loss claims seem to be tricky. If the costs far exceed your deductible then there would be a stronger case to make a claim. I had 2 water loss claims in the past 5 years on two SEPARATE properties and my insurance carrier dropped me. I had to get a new policy with a 2nd tier carrier and am paying a bit more. I'd call your carrier to see what their policy on water loss claims are. I was surprised that none of the major insurance carriers would insure me: either resulting from my previous claims or other logistical reasons on their end.
Alexander Felice
(Moderator) -
Guy with Great Hair from Fayetteville, NC
replied over 3 years ago
I avoid claims like the plague. Yes you run the risk of being dropped, and premiums raised. I had a legitimate claim last year from hurricane matthew (on a primary) and since then I've had increased obstacles covering all my properties in the same area. Not impossible, but definitely more of a hassle. This wasn't' a "I don't feel like writing the check" claim, this was 25K
I would get an estimate to repair, then you'll have enough information to make the call. You can't make the proper decision if you don't know the cost spread between both options. Unless it's a bank breaking repair, I personally wouldn't make a claim.
Roger S.
Investor from TX
replied over 3 years ago
Yeah, I've already had one water damage claim this year, from a washing machine that overflowed and ruined a whole houseful of brand new laminate. Damned if you and damned if you don't. Crap.
Pat Alford
from Austin, AR
replied over 3 years ago
It will depend on the insurance carrier, and more importantly how long the leak has been going. This is sometimes difficult to determine, but if there are rotten boards, then it’s been awhile.
Most insurance policies cover “Sudden and Accidental Discharge of Water”, but most exclude “Repeated and Continuous Leaks”. The easiest way to understand this, is that insurance covers events (like Hurricane Matthew or a pipe break or tree falling) and not processes (like tree growing into the side of the house, rot caused by a missing section of shingles, or an undetected water leak).
All rental policies are NOT created equally. MetLife seems to have a more generous view of “unseen” damage, and will often cover claims that 95% of other companies would deny outright.
I am not affiliated with any specific insurance company, but I am an independent insurance adjuster and deal with the claims side for a living. However, I cannot give any insight into premium increases or renew ability issues.
Roger S.
Investor from TX
replied over 3 years ago
@Pat Alford
I've decided to just bite the bullet. Looks like a long term leak and I discovered the dryer was vented under the house. Lots of rot. Even the floor joist are rotten. Got a guy coming next week to level the house and I'll replace the joists and subfloors and floors.
Jeff Bridges
Investor from Hyattsville, Maryland
replied over 3 years ago
Originally posted by @Roger S. :
Yeah, I've already had one water damage claim this year, from a washing machine that overflowed and ruined a whole houseful of brand new laminate. Damned if you and damned if you don't. Crap.
Sorry for your issue. It might not have addressed your past issues, but I now put $10 battery water alarms next to the washing machine, water heater and under the sink. It will alert your tenants potentially faster upon an initial leak to shut off the source before the appliance dumps its entire contents onto the floor. This actually helped me out recently when the condensate line got clogged in the HVAC closet and the water puddled and set off the water alarm. I actually put it there in case of a water heater leak, but it ended up bringing immediate attention to a clogged condensate line much faster than they otherwise would have noticed with a slow overflow leak.
You have several claims in the past few years; I would definitely avoid making any more claims unless they are catastrophic and you can't afford to pay for current repairs or you risk getting dropped. 4 claims in 2 years would defintely put you in the high loss history category and insurers might think twice about keeping your policy.
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