Approaching an investor -- advice from a pro welcome!
4 Replies
Rob Simpson
Landlord from Pensacola, Florida
posted 13 days ago
Folks are encouraging me to seek private investors to help me with a deal. This would be the first time I have approached anyone that isn't a big bank, so I'm unsure if what I am offering is enough to whet the appetite of someone with Bigger Pockets than me. I'd appreciate some pointers from anybody that has worked a deal with a private investor to tell me what they'd do/offer differently. So, what I've put together below are some of the numbers I'm thinking. I used 15% (simple) because it represents a "middle of the road" return compared to the volatile S&P 500 index over the last 5 years.
Would this tickle your investor's interest? If not, why not?
Purchase price | $1,700,000.00 |
Annual income | $312,900.00 |
Annual expense | $(89,308.00) |
Annual set-aside | $(12,000.00) |
NOI | $211,592.00 |
Less debt service | $(70,887.00) |
Annual cash flow | $140,705.00 |
Investor Terms | |
Principal amount | $363,989.00 |
Interest rate | 15.00% |
Term | 60/mos |
Yield | $418,587.35 |
Gain | $54,598.35 |
Updated 13 days ago
49 unit apartment complex.
Nathan G.
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Real Estate Broker from Cody, WY
replied 14 days ago
What are you considering in your expenses? What is your "annual set-aside" for?
You don't say anything about the property so I don't know how to help you. Is this an apartment complex? Strip mall? Trailer park?
You can generally expect operating expenses to be closer to 50% of the income. You're calculating $89,000 in expenses which is only 5%. Either this is a very, very well-run operation or you're missing some expenses.
Nathan G.
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Real Estate Broker from Cody, WY
replied 14 days ago
Originally posted by @Nathan G.:What are you considering in your expenses? What is your "annual set-aside" for?
You don't say anything about the property so I don't know how to help you. Is this an apartment complex? Strip mall? Trailer park?
You can generally expect operating expenses to be closer to 50% of the income. You're calculating $89,000 in expenses which is only 5%. Even if I combine your expenses and debt service, that's only 10% of income. Either this is a very, very well-run operation or you're missing some expenses.
Rob Simpson
Landlord from Pensacola, Florida
replied 13 days ago
@Nathan G. , good questions and my properties also tend to be 50%. Here is what I have, as per a flyer:
Contract work: 18228
Lawn care: 4500
Taxes: 30,189
Trash: 4,410
Utilities: 15,231
Insurance: 4,750
Maintenance: 12,000
Reserves for replacements like roof: $12,000
Nathan G.
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Real Estate Broker from Cody, WY
replied 14 days ago
What about vacancies? Property management?
As a rule of thumb, insurance is usually around 1% of purchase price. That's almost 4x what you show.
$12,000 for maintenance? 5% of purchase price would be conservative, which is $85,000 per year and 7x what you show.
Something doesn't smell right.