Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Anaim Murcia

Anaim Murcia has started 10 posts and replied 52 times.

Post: Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @J Scott:

Good question...  And here's the answer...

First, there is always an end. You even said so yourself: 10-15-20 years.

But even without an end, there's a metric called Internal Rate of Return (IRR) that can tell you the estimated compounded rate of return over the life of the deal, even if the deal goes on forever.

This is because there's something called Time Value of Money, where money earned later is worth less.  Money earned 15, 20 or 100 years in the future is great, but factors much less (and eventually not at all) on the returns than money earned in the short term.  

And here's a cool little secret for you...  You talk about getting your principal back sooner and future money being "infinite profits," but from a math standpoint, that's irrelevant.

Here's an example:

Let's say you put $100,000 into a deal, and after 2 years you get $100,000 back. Then you get $10,000 a year for the next 10 years.

Overall, you invested $100,000 and you get $200,000 back.  Does it matter if the first $100,000 that you got back after 2 years was the return your original investment or whether the $100,000 you got back over the next 10 years was the return of your original investment?

It doesn't matter. Saying you're getting your original investment back first results in the exact same mathematical returns as saying you're getting your profits first and your investment back later.

In the example above, all that matters is that you received $100,000 after 2 years and $10,000 a year after that. Doesn't matter which was the profit and which was the return on capital. The return metrics are all the same.

If you want to better understanding of any of that, check out the latest book I published with BiggerPockets.  It digs into all of this and a whole lot more...

https://store.biggerpockets.co...


 Scott,  I love it and I will definitely read the book. I appreciate you sharing the knowledge it literally POWERFULL.

here's the proforma on the deal I am working on.

100,000 example. 

1.target investor CoC year one . 6.25% (starting)

2.target Investor Equity Multiple. 2.7x 

3.target Investor ARR 26%

4.Refinance Year 6 (return all capital plus) 

5.80/20 split till the life time of the deal. 

6. Hold time 10 years+. 

Post: Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Anaim Murcia:

Is anybody here looking forward to partner up in a Multifamily investment?

Great returns

Great asset

Long-term

Endless Returns

 Here's an idea, POST THE NUMBERS and location.  This looks like a FB post, that is the LAST thing everyone here wants to see . Looks like you are trying to " build a list " 

Good luck 


 Thanks brother, but this is no pitch. It was a comment to see who could be interested, but a lot of people got offended by it. Lol 

If you'd like we could get on a zoom call. 

I'd be more than happy to share with you. 

Post: Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @J Scott:
Quote from @Anaim Murcia:
By the way, Endless return is just a definition of when you are no longer invested in a deal because you got your investment back and you still produce passive income for x amount of years... 
Thats infinite, you cant calculate that. 

Incorrect. You certainly can calculate it.

Getting back more money than what you put in is not an infinite return.  It's called a positive return.  And it happens with most investments.  And there are plenty of metrics you can use to calculate it.

It's only an infinite return when looked at from one very specific calculation (CoC in the years following the payback). Which isn't a useful metric in the first place.

If you don't understand these basics concepts, you're probably not yet ready to be pitching deals to investors.


 Thanks Scott, thats a very valid point. 

and I like the comment towards the end. 

However, Im not talking about a higher than Expected ROI.

im talking about cashflowing even after getting the investment back. When you are no longer INVESTED on a deal as a limited partner you are not just getting a "calculated higher than expected return" 

-Due to a refi after the property increases in value due to the bussines plan (100 units +)

its literally cashflow until end life of the deal. The end of the deal could be in 10-15-20 years. 

How would you calculate that if there may be no end period 

you probably already know this, but every structure is different based on the group. 

Thanks for taking the time for sharing.

Post: Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Anaim Murcia:
Quote from @Allan C.:

@Anaim Murcia we call that too good to be true. You’ve probably noticed a fair amount of sarcasm in the responses thus far, and it’s because your offering doesn’t sound credible. If this is indeed a legit opportunity, you should provide more information in a balanced manner.


Brother I Appreciate your Feedback, and to be honest I'm okay with sarcasm because its actually pretty normal when the person does not know about a topic. Its a mind block and it just means a person is not ready to hear about different investments opportunities that actually exist, in this case (Large Multifamily) 

Look at it this way;

Most of people are saying "no" without even actually asking me "how is this possible, can I get more details, Can I see the property you are talking about". 

And it's 100% okay. Because eventually, those who invest, will have more opportunities offered to them. 

As a matter of fact, many other companies are doing different sorts of syndication. But once again brother, I appreciate your feedback. God bless your heart.

By the way, Endless return is just a definition of when you are no longer invested in a deal because you got your investment back and you still produce passive income for x amount of years... 
Thats infinite, you cant calculate that. 

Post: Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Allan C.:

@Anaim Murcia we call that too good to be true. You’ve probably noticed a fair amount of sarcasm in the responses thus far, and it’s because your offering doesn’t sound credible. If this is indeed a legit opportunity, you should provide more information in a balanced manner.


Brother I Appreciate your Feedback, and to be honest I'm okay with sarcasm because its actually pretty normal when the person does not know about a topic. Its a mind block and it just means a person is not ready to hear about different investments opportunities that actually exist, in this case (Large Multifamily) 

Look at it this way;

Most of people are saying "no" without even actually asking me "how is this possible, can I get more details, Can I see the property you are talking about". 

And it's 100% okay. Because eventually, those who invest, will have more opportunities offered to them. 

As a matter of fact, many other companies are doing different sorts of syndication. But once again brother, I appreciate your feedback. God bless your heart.

Post: Best Networking Application For Real Estate Professionals

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

The relationships with the most longevity are done in person. Having coffee and going to meetups trumps other forms of networking. 

100% Brother!
Thanks For Sharing 

Post: Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Derick Bonsu:
Quote from @Percy N.:

@Anaim Murcia you may want to move this to the Marketplace instead of posting it here.

But he has endless returns. Don't you want some of that.

 When an investor gets their Money Returned  and possibly 2.7x on their money. But still owns the assets and still makes cash flow... 

how should I properly call that? 

Post: Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Jason Thompson:

@Anaim Murcia You will receive better responses from investors using defined offerings by using metrics that investors can relate to. IRR, COC, etc All the best Anaim.

Thanks Jason!

Post: Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Percy N.:
Quote from @Derick Bonsu:
Quote from @Percy N.:

@Anaim Murcia you may want to move this to the Marketplace instead of posting it here.

But he has endless returns. Don't you want some of that.

 Only if it comes with zero risk ;-)

I love that. 

Post: Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Anaim MurciaPosted
  • Specialist
  • Port Richey
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Percy N.:

@Anaim Murcia you may want to move this to the Marketplace instead of posting it here.

Will do!

thanks