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All Forum Posts by: Jarrod Ochsenbein

Jarrod Ochsenbein has started 21 posts and replied 119 times.

Post: Pace Morby Mentorship

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Jarrod Ochsenbein:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Kirsten Martinez:

Hello Everyone, I am a Subto and Gator member. I joined this forum a while ago because my mom is a biggerpockets member. 

Your comment: "if you have specific questions, I would be happy to answer them for you."
Just a couple please,

If you buy a property on the MLS for asking price say $400,000 for cash flow the way he teaches in his videos and you use a gator lender to cover the closing/rehab costs say $20,000 so now you owe $420,000 on a house valued at $400,000 what happens if in 6 months the lender finds out and calls the Due on Sale clause?

What happens if a gator lender lends $20,000 on a transactional deal but the borrower "forgets" to pay back the gator?

Does Pace Morby answer your questions on the Subto community site or someone else? Do you get trained personally by Pace Morby?


 I will answer on Kristen's behalf since I am sure she is busy.   There is plenty of training that covers your questions.  There is a vault of past live deals being made, several zoom calls with Pace a day and of course the community. Too many zoom calls with Pace actually IMO, but you don't have to attend any if you don't wish to. :)  There is so much data it is overwhelming and I don't think anyone can get through all of it.  

For the question about buying a property on the MLS I am not sure it applies. Most of us are looking for off market deals via subto, seller finance, morby method etc... Let's say you did buy a property off the MLS conventionally and did use a gator for the down payment. There wouldn't be a due on sale because you bought it conventional. For the Gator loan you would work out some type of repayment structure and a lien would be placed on the property or some cross collateral.

What I did is finished the Gator and Subto training, networked with people and was off to the races. I do try and attend a few meetings a week with the community, but the forums and my own deals keep me pretty busy.  I will say the way I started was the best for me.  I started with Gator 1.0.  I learned the ropes so to speak and after I did a deal or two it paid for Gator in the first 2 months. Then after I earned enough to pay for Subto I joined that in the summer and things really started cooking. The Subto community is larger and also overwhelming. 

@Jarrod OchsenbeinYour comment "For the question about buying a property on the MLS I am not sure it applies."

Of course it applies. That is what Pace Morby is all about if you watch his videos. He advocates buying on the MLS at full price (he says he can "over pay" and then he can use "gator lenders" to cover the down payment, closing costs and he has no skin in the game. He is overleveraging other people's money. 

 If you go through the agent, which means you have to pay the agent fees. Most people wait till it is on the market forever to talk to the agent or wait till it expires.  What Pace is getting at is if you buy a house subto the purchase price really doesn't matter.  You pay XYZ price on paper and take over the mortgage.  You can leverage other people's money for the deal and pay them back over time.  IE if the property is taken over subto and then rented for more than the debt service you can use those funds to pay back the lender. 

Post: Pace Morby Mentorship

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Jarrod Ochsenbein:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Kirsten Martinez:

Hello Everyone, I am a Subto and Gator member. I joined this forum a while ago because my mom is a biggerpockets member. 

Your comment: "if you have specific questions, I would be happy to answer them for you."
Just a couple please,

If you buy a property on the MLS for asking price say $400,000 for cash flow the way he teaches in his videos and you use a gator lender to cover the closing/rehab costs say $20,000 so now you owe $420,000 on a house valued at $400,000 what happens if in 6 months the lender finds out and calls the Due on Sale clause?

Actually what was asked was "

Can Someone Please Post a Subto Purchased On The MLS That Was Successful -


If someone did a subto deal off the MLS it would have been through the sellers agent, which is not all that common, but does happen. Typically people wait for expired MLS listings or pre foreclosures.

Post: Private lending in 2nd position

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78

2nd position loan questions

How do you insure you mitigate the risk of not being paid back?

For me I use;

2nd lien on target property or cross collateral property deed of trust

JV agreement

Promissory Note

Personal Guarantee

May be over kill, but I am fine with it.

Also if you ever foreclose on a property that has enough equity to cover your loan I assume the 1st lien gets paid and then the rest would go to the 2nd position or is that not correct?

Thanks in advance.   I am hoping to never go through the foreclose process.

Jarrod

Post: Out of state Co-living (REI is addictive)

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78

I have been a PML since April and in August I decided to join the fun.  I settled on the co-living strategy and bought a 2500 sq ft house in Arizona. I live in Oregon so this had me flying back and forth at first. I networked and found a great contractor who made it an 8 bedroom.  I ran it as an AirBnB for tax reasons and Jan 2nd I have my first 2 members.  It is live on Padsplit now.  Whoohoo  wish me luck y'all.  I am on the ladder now!

Reach out if you wanted to chat real estate. Ask my family, I won't shut up about it. REI is a drug!

I have been putting the videos on youtube of the transformation, but I don't think I can post that here, so hit me up if you want to see the process.

Post: Pace Morby Mentorship

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Kirsten Martinez:

Hello Everyone, I am a Subto and Gator member. I joined this forum a while ago because my mom is a biggerpockets member. 

Your comment: "if you have specific questions, I would be happy to answer them for you."
Just a couple please,

If you buy a property on the MLS for asking price say $400,000 for cash flow the way he teaches in his videos and you use a gator lender to cover the closing/rehab costs say $20,000 so now you owe $420,000 on a house valued at $400,000 what happens if in 6 months the lender finds out and calls the Due on Sale clause?

What happens if a gator lender lends $20,000 on a transactional deal but the borrower "forgets" to pay back the gator?

Does Pace Morby answer your questions on the Subto community site or someone else? Do you get trained personally by Pace Morby?


 I will answer on Kristen's behalf since I am sure she is busy.   There is plenty of training that covers your questions.  There is a vault of past live deals being made, several zoom calls with Pace a day and of course the community. Too many zoom calls with Pace actually IMO, but you don't have to attend any if you don't wish to. :)  There is so much data it is overwhelming and I don't think anyone can get through all of it.  

For the question about buying a property on the MLS I am not sure it applies. Most of us are looking for off market deals via subto, seller finance, morby method etc... Let's say you did buy a property off the MLS conventionally and did use a gator for the down payment. There wouldn't be a due on sale because you bought it conventional. For the Gator loan you would work out some type of repayment structure and a lien would be placed on the property or some cross collateral.

What I did is finished the Gator and Subto training, networked with people and was off to the races. I do try and attend a few meetings a week with the community, but the forums and my own deals keep me pretty busy.  I will say the way I started was the best for me.  I started with Gator 1.0.  I learned the ropes so to speak and after I did a deal or two it paid for Gator in the first 2 months. Then after I earned enough to pay for Subto I joined that in the summer and things really started cooking. The Subto community is larger and also overwhelming. 

Post: Real Estate Professional Status/Time Tracking

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78
Quote from @Jarrod Ochsenbein:

Another request for the time sheet pretty please.  :)  Thank you in advance.

Jarrod 


I ended up doing a STR under 7 days to offset my W2 income. Way easier for me. :)

Post: Hard Money lender 1st position only

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78

Howdy all you deal junkies out there.  If you need hard money hit me up here: https://jarrod.alphagatorfunding.com/

Picture for attention.  I got to meet Mark Kohler recently and he was the best. He spent 10 minutes with me talking taxes and cost segs.  Love him and Mat Sorensen!

Anyway if you wanted to chat or get to know me hit me up.

Post: Want to Sell my income generating property ASAP

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78

Is there an address associated with this "Must Sell" property?

Post: Looking For Hard Money

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78

You can apply for a hard money loan here: https://jarrod.alphagatorfunding.com/

We can chat on the phone or via email if you like.

Jarrod HML, PML, AZ buyer

Post: Private Money Lender and Buyer in AZ - Let's connect and grow together!

Jarrod Ochsenbein
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oregon/Arizona
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 78
Quote from @Dexter Florendo Kalai Aspacio:

Hi Jarrod,

I’m looking to network and perhaps partner with you on some deals. Please feel free to contact me at: 928-304-4071 or email me at: [email protected] 

Thank You,


 I have been traveling lately and just got back to my home town.  What markets are you in?