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Real Estate Attorney · Charlotte, NC


I have been researching RESPA for about a month. I got into a discussion on Activerain about REO closings and I mentioned that the Seller can control the place of closing... I got a very persuasive response that it was in violation of RESPA. I contacted some of the leading RESPA attorneys in the country, and all three told me the same thing:

\THIS IS REALLY TECHNICAL STUFF... SEEK LOCAL COUNSEL BEFORE RELYING ON THIS!!!!!!!!

HUD takes the position that if a seller requires the buyer to use the seller's closing agent, and the closing agent selects the title provider, that is a violation of the Section 9 prohibition against a seller requiring the use of a particular title provider. Technically, a seller could require a buyer to use a non-affiliated closing agent, if the buyer could select the title provider. However, as a practical matter, if the provider selected often is the seller's preferred provider, HUD will assume that the buyer probably did not have free choice. In other words, the seller would have to demonstrate that the buyers did have free choice, even though many buyers picked the seller's preferred provider. RESPA does allow a seller to offer an incentive to a buyer to select a particular title provider. The incentive must be bona fide and not made up by higher costs elsewhere in the transaction.

IN the state of NC attorneys cannot collect title premiums in a transaction where they are the closing attorney, or rendered an opinion of title. SO... in North Carolina the seller can require the Buyer to close with the Sellers attorney, so long as Buyer is afforded the opportunity to have its own attorney review the documents, and so long as the buyer has the opportunity to choose its own title insurance company... At least until the law changes..


Real Estate Consultant · Little Town, Oklahoma


It's called " steering"

1. RESPA requires that borrowers receive disclosures at various times. Some disclosures spell out the costs associated with the settlement, outline lender servicing and escrow account practices and describe business relationships between settlement service providers.

2. RESPA also prohibits certain practices that increase the cost of settlement services. Section 8 of RESPA prohibits a person from giving or accepting any thing of value for referrals of settlement service business related to a federally related mortgage loan. It also prohibits a person from giving or accepting any part of a charge for services that are not performed. Section 9 of RESPA prohibits home sellers from requiring home buyers to purchase title insurance from a particular company.

http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/res/respamor.cfm


Real Estate Investor · Ohio


My last REO closing had to be at a neutral location, which was at a McDonalds. The bank choose the title agency and closer.


Real Estate Investor · Salt Lake City, UT


You are exactly correct, RESPA frowns on anything that appears to be " colusion" RESPA requires our clients to understand that they can use whatever title company they want and are free to pick and choose whom they want for home insurance etc.

The biggest ADVANTAGE to using the same title company is convenience and speed. There may be a slight cost advantage (under $50-$1oo) to using the same title company too. The title market is so competitive that prices are usually identical.

The only time it has been a DISADVANTAGE to using different title companies is when there is a problem with clearing title. Because title needs to be cleared with both the buyer and sellers side, using two different agents in different part of town (or the state) can cause an extra days delay or two to get both sides on the same sheet of music.

I have one or two title people that I LIKE to work with, but I ALWAYS defer the choice to my clients first, and if they don't care I'll use someone from my posse to get it knocked out.

This was probably WAY more information than what you wanted to know but I wanted to share anyway.

Best,


Real Estate Investor · Ohio


Just as an FYI,

I told them that I wanted to use my title company and they refused. The bank said that it would cause too much confusion and would be a duplication of efforts.




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