I am looking to put a few offers out there on some REO's. I will be using transactional funding on them and bringing in my own end buyer. My question is on my initial offer to the REO lender how much deposit do I need?
With a "mass low-balling" approach I got very few offers responded to. Even on the properties I have listed, I see these investors that come in at half of asking and I just turf the offers.
Find a property that the bank is willing to be flexible on (trashed, many days on market, etc) and negotiate until you get it.
I agree with Paul. I have purchased several REOs throughout the years. When the EM is 2% or $5,000 (greater of the two), banks will take a more serious look at the offer.
If you are indeed new to this Rick, I should mention that EM is just a piece of the puzzle. Make sure you (or your agent) is presenting the offer properly...submit with your offer POF, FICO, underwriting approval (if possible) and any other type of documentation that shows you are for real. The more comfortable the bank is with your ability to close, the more of a discount you will likely be able to negotiate.
You may also want to include in your package recently sold props that support your offer.
An itemized list of needed repairs w/price quotes from licensed contractors.
I'd also advise you to offer in the high side of your comfort range once you have a history of performance the banks will be much more willing to work with you.
If you are low-balling these offers what kinda percentage would you say get accepted?
That depends mostly on your local market conditions.
On the REO I am currently working on I offered 15% EM on the first offer. Now that we are getting closer to a deal and they know I a a serious buyer with proof of funds I have lowered my EM. Things have not been looking good lately, and many of these houses are difficult for the average person to purchase. As an investor with cash, you hold a powerful position. You should be getting a deal these days or your money is better spent elsewhere.
One great strategy is to check DOM and see which properties are languishing on the market for extended periods of time. These are the properties that the banks are the most motivated to get rid of at a bigger discount.
If you're buying these REOs for cash, do the following.
I write a check for 50% of the offering price. The agent presenting the offer adds a copy of the check to EM agreement. Realtor keeps check with instructions not to deposit until offer is accepted. I also tell seller I'll close in 14 days.
This sets me apart from all the cheapskate, tire kickers that are running around. My same copy of that check may be used on other potential deals. Rich.
For any cash purchase, I see no reason to submit earnest money at least than the total purchase price -- ESPECIALLY for small purchases like this.
For example, if I place an all-cash offer on a $60K property, I will submit $60K in EM. Sure, I could submit $5K or $10K, but ultimately, there's really no difference to me in the end, and offering 100% EM on a purchase really makes an impact on the seller, even if your offer is lower than others.
The other nice thing about 100% EM is that on closing day, you don't need to wire the money or get a cashier's check. The house is already paid for, so I can just take a personal check to the closing table to cover closing costs.
True, but for higher value properties, I don;t want to tie up Hundreds of thousands for 14 or 21 or 30 days, so a large EMD is more than sufficient. At least it works for me.
Edited: 06/26/2010 at 09:46AM
Will Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc. E-Mail: info@barnardenterprises.com Website:http://www.barnardenterprises.com info@barnardenterprises.com
What about if you are just starting out making offers on bank owned property and you don't have a lot of cash for the EMD? What is the best method when you are new?
Also if you are making offers on multiple properties are you writing checks for every property? That could add up pretty fast.
I wouldn't make offers on an REO if you don't have at least $500 to put down in earnest money. While it's *possible* you might get an offer accepted with less, it's unlikely, and I'm not sure it's worth the time and effort to try.
Also if you are making offers on multiple properties are you writing checks for every property? That could add up pretty fast.
Most realtors will ask you to provide a personal check for the amount of the earnest money, *BUT* I've never seen one of those checks actually get cashed. It's pretty much just a show of good faith.
When an offer does get accepted, the realtor will generally ask you to provide certified funds for the earnest money, and will give you back your uncashed check. So, there's no reason why you can't write multiple checks without the worry of having them cashed. In fact, many agents are happy to just get a photocopy of the check, so you can actually use the same check for multiple offers.
Regardless, I would ask the agent you're working with for their guidance on this before you proceed...if they are used to making offers on REO properties, I'm sure it's not the first time they've gotten the question...
Like Jason stated, just make out your EMD payable to "Escrow" and use the same chekc for multiple offers. They never get cashed, as the banks want certified funds sent in or a wire transfer. You don't have to worry about that until after the offer is accepted.
Edited: 06/26/2010 at 09:49AM
Will Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc. E-Mail: info@barnardenterprises.com Website:http://www.barnardenterprises.com info@barnardenterprises.com