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Real Estate Investor · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


On this foreclosure listing, the bank has clearly stated that it won't allow "surveys, inspections, as-is" blah blah; My question is for the bank to accept, do I have to make an offer with no contingencies or due dilligence?
I plan to get my inspector to just do a quick walk-thru with me but it would be AFTER the contract is submitted; If this is done, would backing out result in anything more than losing EM? Thanks - Brandon



Originally posted by Brandon E
On this foreclosure listing, the bank has clearly stated that it won't allow "surveys, inspections, as-is" blah blah; My question is for the bank to accept, do I have to make an offer with no contingencies or due dilligence?
I plan to get my inspector to just do a quick walk-thru with me but it would be AFTER the contract is submitted; If this is done, would backing out result in anything more than losing EM? Thanks - Brandon

You will need to do any DD before you make your offer. If that is there, they will not accept any contingencies.

Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, Georgia


If the property has been on the market for a while, just submit a contract with whatever terms you're comfortable with. The bank will probably come back and say "no contingencies," but I've seen cases where the MLS listing said no DD period and then the bank agreed to one anyway.

It can't hurt to check.

As for losing your EM, yes, if you back out and don't have a contingency to back out, you'll just lose your EM.

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Real Estate Investor · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


I appreciate the feedback, thanks;
Turns out the bank is going to allow a DD period after all. I take it that the bank saying those things about "no this and no that" is to scare off people that aren't serious? And to try to find a buyer that won't waste time....? - Brandon


Real Estate Investor · Ohio


Brandon,

Those are just blanket statements made on all of their listings. In this market, anything goes. keep in mind, if you are not able to inspect a home well enough to feel comfrontable about making a offer, you may loose a lot of deals on REO's.


Real Estate Investor · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


Tom-
I understand what you are saying; It seems like REO's are here-today-gone-tomorrow before you know it.
My agent put in a verbal offer first, waiving the right to inspection, while I had my GC do the "inspection" on a walk-thru....
Probably a bit of a gamble to waive some of my rights, but really wanted to push this deal thru. - Brandon


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Brandon - you really need to develop the knowledge to do your own inspections - most experienced investors can go through a property in 10 minutes and know what the repairs will cost.

If you decide to back out of purchase agreement without any contingencies - then require the bank (seller) to return your deposit before you will sign a cancellation agreement. Most banks will return your deposit so they can move on to the next buyer.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Brandon - you really need to develop the knowledge to do your own inspections - most experienced investors can go through a property in 10 minutes and know what the repairs will cost.
I completely disagree with this suggestion. I ALWAYS get a professional inspection. Sure I walk the home and in 10 minutes can put together my estimate numbers but I am no professional inspector, I don't know everything about electrical, foundations, plumbing, etc etc etc.

The cost is so small compared to the potential mistakes without it.
Could you study some books on performing brain surgery - Sure, would you then be qualified to perform one- hell no.
Perhaps that is not the best analogy, but you all should get the point.

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Real Estate Investor · Indiana, Indiana


Originally posted by nationwidepi
I completely disagree with this suggestion. I ALWAYS get a professional inspection. Sure I walk the home and in 10 minutes can put together my estimate numbers but I am no professional inspector, I don't know everything about electrical, foundations, plumbing, etc etc etc.


I should say something based on what I've seen inside the world of home inspections.

I've gone through Illinois' Home Inspector training program. Out of a class of 20, myself and one other guy had any knowledge of construction. The rest were factory workers, admin assistants, what have you that were looking for a second source of income (nothing against that, but you need to know what you're dealing with). 90% of the "Professionals" don't know a thing about it, much less everything either. It's not brain surgery either. It's a 1-2 month correspondence course and a week or two of class time to become a licensed home inspector in most states. You can buy the book they use for $70 yourself and inspect 1 property and you will have effectively completed most state minimum requirements to obtain a license. You can even get practice tests online to see if your knowledge matches up to someone who would get licensed.

This is nothing against the world of professional inspectors nor am I telling you whether or not to use one, just realize the realities of this industry and look into the background of your professional inspector, beyond their license.

Tim


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Tim,
I agree with your points but will have to say that choosing a "quality" inspector is no different than any other service provider. There are good property managers and bad ones (far less good than bad ones). Just the same with inspectors. It is not the licnese that is of major importance but their individual abilities and knowledge to locate and pick out potential problems hidden to the investor's eyes.
All that said, having a second pair of eyes look over a property certainly can't hurt as it is very possible an investor who is also a licnesed inspector could miss something as well. Why not pay the extra few hundred and have a second pair of eyes on it. To me, the cost is worth it.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Real Estate Investor · East Northport, New York


Submit your offer with whatever amount and contingencies you fell is/are fair based on your area.

"It is better to ask forgiveness than ask permission."


Real Estate Investor · East Northport, New York


...Also, do not get emotional over it. If they will not bend on key points you need to buy it right, then just say - NEXT! There are plenty of deals out there. Do not make one that isn't.


Real Estate Investor · Cumberland, Rhode Island


THe bank could go after you and enforece the contract but I have not seen that happen nor do I thenk they would waste the time. Your EM would be lost but that is it. Banks typically do not require more the a $1000 deposit.




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