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Real Estate Investor


When do you think the bottom will happen? While nobody can accurately predict either top or bottom (it took the Govt a year to declare a recession), everyone still has to plan for the future and you know what they say about opinions.

Third quarter, 2010. We won't know until Q2 2011.

One party rule, and the Dems approach of tax & spend, we haven't even begun to see the the consequences of the devaluation of the dollar and high unemployment and inflation that took place during the 70's. Uncontrolled pork barrel spending on top of massive bailouts and a socialist move to entitlements. We're robbing Peter to pay Paul, and before we bottom out, we'll be suffering the consequences of robbing Paul.

So, your opinion? Everybody's got one.


SFR Investor · Omaha, Nebraska


I'll go out on a limb and say that we already found it.

Why: All the "experts" on TV are trying to convince everyone we have not found the bottom.

Housing starts are up.

REO's in my neighborhood are getting picked up within days instead of months. Housing values maybe only dropped 5% here in the middle income neighborhoods.

I think that most of the bad earnings news are already reported as the companies that lost their shirt with bad investments have already reports bad earnings once or twice.

You can say what you want about the dollar, but all the more reason for money on the sidelines to own assets instead of waiting around longer.


· Indianapolis, Indiana


I feel that the real estate investment market has already hit bottom, and will stay there for the next 12 months or so. Just as houses can only go so high, they can also only go so low too!

For owner/occupant buyers who are not versed in the real estate business, they will see home prices still drop a little bit, but I honestly feel that the flood of REO properties that are coming our way will actually spur a buying spree, and increase values.

We are already seeing multiple bids on REO properties, and higher offering prices being accepted.

The only real wrench in the system will be the mortgage markets, but they MUST start lending more, and in my opinion, they will. This is how they make money!

We also need to worry about inflation, as I can see a rise in interest rates on the way. That said, we still have that 12-18 month window of opportunity here. So do not wait for the bottom, as it will not wait for you!

Have a Profitable Day Everyone!

Harrison


Real Estate Consultant


Housing starts are up.

I think it's a little early to claim that housing starts are truly up.

View:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/Sb-ZNOxm1AI/AAAAAAAAEzg/83lcmC-Bcy8/s1600-h/HousingStartsF2009.jpg


Real Estate Investor · Redding, California


I say it will eek down just a little bit more for about four to six months then stay pretty consistent for two years before prices start to climb back up again.


General Contractor · Warrenton, Virginia


x2 on Melissa's opinion.


Real Estate Investor · Ohio


I think that we're VERY EARLY in the economic depression to come. The people of this country have been living a lifestyle far in excess of their earnings for decades. Our economy is almost entirely based on consumer spending - consumer spending that has been financed with debt and fake appreciation (first on stocks, then on real estate). The American public certainly isn't anywhere close to paying down that debt. We've had an UNPRECEDENTED runup in housing prices and we haven't even gotten back to the historical prices in many areas, let alone the inevitable overshoot to the low side.

As if the dot-com and housing bubbles weren't bad enough, the government has now created a money bubble by pumping literally TRILLIONS of dollars into the economy for ridiculous government initiatives (having very little to do with stimulus). This will be the biggest and worst bubble of them all.

I don't think that we will hit bottom until at least 2012 and then will remain in a horrendous depression until at least 2018. Very likely, this will end with a major war which will kill a high percentage of the people on the planet.

That's my best guess.

How you doing with your stockpile of food, water, gold, and ammo?

Mike


Real Estate Investor · ten mile, Tennessee


Originally posted by MikeOH
As if the dot-com and housing bubbles weren't bad enough, the government has now created a money bubble by pumping literally TRILLIONS of dollars into the economy for ridiculous government initiatives (having very little to do with stimulus). This will be the biggest and worst bubble of them all.

I have spoken this to others, and would like to know everyone's view here. The "stimilus" package has nothing to due with stimulating the economy itself but is really the governments best guess of how they can prevent having to spend this money later.

If they were to let things be more companies would have folded (or at least called it quits) and the government unemployment rolls would have exploded so drastically that they would have easily have doubled the monies they gave away in unemployment claims, food stampt, and all those other programs.

This is what I believe is the real drive behind this and the government is going to get a little upset that their ploy did not work and take it out on those of us that have found a way to make money.


Real Estate Investor · Los Angeles, California


Originally posted by MikeOH
How you doing with your stockpile of food, water, gold, and ammo?

I agree with Mike's post. I am stockpiling. Then practicing gratitude for having been around this long without having to experience what's coming. That keeps me sane. I am after all an optimist. I will make it though as well. I hope we all do and prosper, and can help those along the way living in tent cities. I believe what Mike is saying is not only very possible but more likely to happen than not. I need to learn how to hunt!

Gold was a little crazy after the fed announcement wed. The higher it goes the more scared a feel.

Does housing go to the moon in hyperinflation? If that's the case we may see a real big rebound by the end of the year...


Real Estate Investor · Redding, California


Have to admit, eventhough I feel things will rebound here in a couple of years, I am playing on the safe side and stockpiling ammo, food, fuel, etc. I don't think its the end of the world, but it can't hurt to be prepared.


· Sacramento, CA


Ditto what MikeOh said, except I hope he is wrong about the war killing a high percentage of the population... Though I have no delusion that TPTB won't resort to such drastic action to preserve their status.


· Indianapolis, Indiana


The only thing I am stockpiling is opportunities and connections!!! :lol:

It is surprising to me that this is not a "hotter" thread?


Real Estate Investor


I'm suprised, too, Harrison. I thought I'd be opening a pandora's box.

I must say, though, a recent news story on NBC about a garden at the white house, and the boom on growing your own;

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#29803183

and noting that there hasn't been a garden at the white house since the "victory garden" of WWII, does make one stop and wonder.

Ralph


· Boonies, Pennsylvania


Originally posted by Harrison Painter
The only thing I am stockpiling is opportunities and connections!!! :lol:


I couldn't agree more, There will be 3 types of people. 1) People that cry and lose money. 2) People that just stand still. 3) People that see opportunity and move forward.

I guess 4) would be the people who stock pile ammo. They will be the first to get knocked off.

Housing will fall to $130k (Depending on location) National average then bounce to about $145k and stay there for years. Once they flatten interest rates will go up. I wouldn't be surprised to see up to 15%. Some properties are at bottom now. The other properties not at the bottom are homes that do not need to sale.

Stock market will climb then fall again in Nov. and Dec. bounce back the end of Jan. 2010 after that their will climb just in time for the 2010 elections.

Companies will fail, new ones will take their place. Millionaires will fail new ones will be made. The sun will rise, then set again. I am pretty sure this will happen everyday.

If you ask me people with money are on the side lines. It would be financial suicide to get into the markets today unless your a pro.


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