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· colorado springs, Colorado


Here comes this
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/opinion/01krugman.html?_r=1

Wow, and I was so certain I could pin this mess ONLY on the Big O and Bubba from Arkansas...

But, what's this guy know anyway, I'd tell him to stuff his socialist Nobel someplace, perhaps I should listen to an authority like Cramer instead.


Real Estate Investor


Typical liberal talking point…It's the old white guy's fault.


Residential Real Estate Broker · Durham, North Carolina


It is a typical Krugman arguement -- people are too stupid to take care of themselves, so they need government to do it for them. Personal responsibility is an alien concept.

BTW, I especially liked the bit where he implied that there was no deficit before Reagan, implied that rising government debt was bad, and then spent the rest of the article talking about private debt. A classic bait and switch.


Real Estate Investor


Krugman also never mentioned that this "excess spending" help contribute to the collapse of the Cold War and at that time, the debt ratio as a percentage of GDP was still below most western European countries.


Real Estate Investor · Studio City, California


Wow! So many republicans and so little time... Hummm. When it comes to blame, we, Americans are experts. Who did it? He did it, she did it, and whoever is trying to fix it is doing it wrong.
Alternatives, anyone?


Real Estate Investor · Los Angeles, California


Originally posted by Eddie Ziv

Alternatives, anyone?

Yes -

Most in the U.S throne are puppets to to the real power, the central bankers. Until the power structure changes it will be the same story. The fed is a socialist functioning cartel entity regardless of whether or not the puppet president is a republican or democrat. The fed holds the power. Congress has no legal right know how much money exactly is being printed, or what deals are being cut with china, london, etc...

There is an alternative for you.

Updated: 08:45AM, 06/01/2009

typo correction

Updated: 08:45AM, 06/01/2009

or maybe not


Real Estate Investor · Indiana, Indiana


Originally posted by Eddie Ziv
Wow! So many republicans and so little time... Hummm. When it comes to blame, we, Americans are experts. Who did it? He did it, she did it, and whoever is trying to fix it is doing it wrong.
Alternatives, anyone?


So how's liberal economics working in California again? You never answered me from before. You guys aren't having any fiscal problems that the rest of the country may have to bail you out on despite having the income of silicon valley, Hollywood and easily one of the richest supply of natural resources of any state are you?

Want to know how Alaska's doing?


Residential Real Estate Broker · Durham, North Carolina


Originally posted by Eddie Ziv
Wow! So many republicans and so little time... Hummm. When it comes to blame, we, Americans are experts. Who did it? He did it, she did it, and whoever is trying to fix it is doing it wrong.
Alternatives, anyone?


For the record, I'm Libertarian. And my solution is to let the poorly run companies fail, and the well-run companies succeed. If any Federal money was needed at all, it should have been offered to the successful companies to cover the needed duties in the financial sector when Citibank et al failed.

Or, as I frequently put it "The financial sector might need a Citibank, but it doesn't have to actually *be* Citibank."


· colorado springs, Colorado



So how's liberal economics working in California again? You never answered me from before. You guys aren't having any fiscal problems that the rest of the country may have to bail you out on despite having the income of silicon valley, Hollywood and easily one of the richest supply of natural resources of any state are you?

Want to know how Alaska's doing?



CA has the 6-7th largest economy in the world while Alaska operates like Marvin the martian ("drill baby drill"). Quite a difference.

I'd be curious to see what the economies of CA and NY put together amount to, of the overall US. Not to mention IL and others...


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Originally posted by Eddie Ziv
Wow! So many republicans and so little time... Hummm. When it comes to blame, we, Americans are experts. Who did it? He did it, she did it, and whoever is trying to fix it is doing it wrong.
Alternatives, anyone?

I consider myself an independent conservative who believes that the problem is not so much the Democrats and Republicans (a lot of them seem the same to me), rather politicians that push for a Statist or strong Federalist agenda.


Real Estate Investor


Who cares about GDP if your state (example, California, Illinois, New York) is headed into a financial abyss. Besides, this biggerpockets.com, not moveon.org. Let's see what states are best to either operate or start a small business:

http://blogs.wsj.com/independentstreet/2009/04/16/best-and-worst-states-for-small-business-taxation/ or just Google any best of list for starting a business.

Well, would you look at that! There sure are a lot of red states up there at the top of that list and a lot of liberal laboratories at the bottom of that list.


Real Estate Investor · Indiana, Indiana


Originally posted by Sorin T
CA has the 6-7th largest economy in the world while Alaska operates like Marvin the martian ("drill baby drill"). Quite a difference.


Size doesn't mean a thing if you don't know how to use it. This is like a negatively cash flowing property with a big appraisal number, big taxes, big bills, big expenses all chipping away at your savings account. Hmmmm.... What state do you see a lot of properties like that in again? Anyone seeing the trend?


· colorado springs, Colorado


Yeah, the situation in CA is pretty dire when compared to Alaska, soon they'd get passed over by the white state. If only they could elect themselves an instant celebrity republican governor to fix things, like Alaska did. Wait, but.... they did! Yeah but he inherited that whole mess, can't hold him responsible for it, no? Some of it had to come from his predecessor, right? Well yeah, but...

I gotta stop here, too many similarities got my head spinning... Anyway you put it, Rush had it right!


Real Estate Investor · Indiana, Indiana


Time for the coup de gras. I've been saving it.

Yes, California is in the crapper and Rush is almost always right. Want to know who else had it right? California has been in trouble before. When it was in trouble before a governor who turned California's $194 million dollar deficit into a $550 million dollar surplus. A governor whom the San Francisco Chronicle said, "We exaggerate very little when we say that [he] has saved the state from bankruptcy." That governor? Governor Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Done. Bye. Thank you for playing. Better luck next time.


· colorado springs, Colorado


Absolutely OUTSTANDING.

Entertainment value in here, that is. Rush would be proud. Sean, Glenn and Darth Vader also.


Real Estate Investor · Studio City, California


To Matt M;
That was an observation not an alternative solution.

Tim:
California is the largest (Or at least used to be unless recently) the largest economy in the States so when the States in economic dire straits, it is amplified in California, by sheer size.


Real Estate Investor · Studio City, California


Typo correction ("Until recently")


Real Estate Investor · Indiana, Indiana


Originally posted by Sorin T
Sean, Glenn and Darth Vader also.


This is the best you got when facing the facts of history? :roll: :roll: :roll: You forgot about Skynet, the Klingons and Sauron - all Republicans of course.

· colorado springs, Colorado


Originally posted by Tim Wieneke

This is the best you got when facing the facts of history? :roll: :roll: :roll: You forgot about Skynet, the Klingons and Sauron - all Republicans of course.

My fault, I omitted the so-called newt. With such exponents it's no wonder they failed miserably last time around, and will do so again next time


Real Estate Investor · Los Angeles, California


Originally posted by Eddie Ziv
To Matt M;
That was an observation not an alternative solution.


Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Return to sound money. Practice Austrian School economics. Forget about Keynes.

None of those are my ideas. But all of them make the most sense to me in terms living in a nation of liberty, freedom, and prosperity. Anything by Ron Paul. Or you can take it back to the Jeffersonians versus the Hamiltonians. I am a Jeffersonian.






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