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Real Estate Investor · Bay Area, California


Can someone explain the land trust method?
Can someone confirm if it works, or if it doesn't work?

Some of the BP members who are reps for transactional lenders are saying that the method works, and others are saying that it doesn't work.


Real Estate Investor · Santa Fe Springs, California


Here is the basic transaction in a nutshell.

Seller puts their home in Land trust.
Once Approval letter comes in from bank, you locate an end buyer.
Once end buyer has completed due diligence and is ready to fund, the beneficial interest of the trust is transferred to the A-->B Buyer.
At that time, the A lender is paid off according to the terms in the approval letter.
Then the trust sells the property to the end buyer and all proceeds are given to the beneficiary (which is you, the A-->B Buyer).

That is basically it.

Just like any RE transaction the devil is in the details, as far as what will work and won't work.


Real Estate Investor · Dallas, Texas


There is way too much to a landtrust for you to get in one post but I'll hit some key points. It works only as well as you set it up. There are different ways to set up a landtrust. All you are doing is holding title to the property in a landtrust until you find a buyer/renter.

Benefits:

  • Title doesn't show up in your name in case you have a lawsuit filed against you. Why? Because the landtrust nor the assignment of beneficial interest is filed at the courthouse..... only the deed is filed.

  • It's better than just transferring the deed to you for the purpose of the DOS clause in the note the lender holds - this doesn't mean they won't call it but IMO there is less of a chance because you can show the lender the family just put the home in a trust for the protection of the heirs
  • Let me explain about setting up a simple landtrust.... you find a seller who doesn't have enough equity to make it work for you buy the house outright. So you have them deed the property to a landtrust with a 3rd party trustee (preferrably someone you know and TRUST or an LLC owned by someone you TRUST). The beneficial interest go to the owners. You then have the owners assign the beneficial interest to you or your company. The only item that is filed at the court house is the new deed. You get a power of attorney (make sure it's a durable power of attorney - that means it continues to be in affect should the person die) so you can act on behalf of the sellers to change insurance etc.... You do want to change the insurance so you are on the policy.

    Does it work? Oh yeah..... I have done many of them and been paid at closing with the paperwork I submitted to the title company showing my beneficial interest in the landtrust.


    Real Estate Investor · Covington, Kentucky


    Cary,

    What title company to you use to close?


    Residential Real Estate Agent · Orange County, California


    I have heard of this method, but I thought that most lenders would rather see a standard P&S agreement rather than a land trust? Obviously I know that it is up to the individual lenders what they accept, but shouldn't we apply our practices to the lowest common denominator?


    Real Estate Investor · Covington, Kentucky


    They do receive a standard P & S Agreement.


    Residential Real Estate Agent · Orange County, California


    Oh, I forgot to edit that part of my post out. Anyway, my question still stands. I thought that most lenders don't like to see land trusts?


    Real Estate Investor · Covington, Kentucky


    If the investor is doing it the right way they don't see the land trust. When you write the P & S Agreement your company is the buyer NOT the land trust.


    Real Estate Investor · Dallas, Texas


    Hey Jodi - I use 2 local title companies - Federal Title in Mesquite TX & Commerce Title in Grand Prairie.

    Federal Title is owned by an attorney/investor/hard money lender.

    Christopher:
    I haven't had a problem yet with my landtrusts where the lenders are concerned. They like getting the back payments caught up and they like the fact the payments are now being paid on time. We just took one of the lender's non-producing assets that would have gone bad and brought it back to a producing asset again.


    Real Estate Investor · Bay Area, California


    I didn't specify something....

    Has anyone successfully completed a short-sale flip to an FHA end-buyer using this method?


    Real Estate Investor · Covington, Kentucky


    Yes, I do and I have clients all over the US that do as well.


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