hello all, i just wanted to know if some of you others would share with me how to you spend your days. I would like to know what an investor should be doing every day to become knowledgeable and successful.
so if it's not to much, I'll like to know what are yall daily rountines, like from mourning to the afternoon (or whatever) and how much time do yall give to different task.
It all depends on what stage you're at in your investing career. If you are just starting out you will be studying, learning, and running your whole business yourself...if you are full time, this is easily a 12 hour a day job (depending on how motivated you are).
Once you get your sytems and infrastructure in place, it's just a few hours a day (if that) making sure everything is running smoothly.
So if you are new, you should be:
1. studying
2. marketing
3. networking
5. making a lot of offers
There was a recent thread where a couple of people talked about their days. (sorry I can't find it now) It was quite a contrast; one did all the work himself and was constantly running around. The other delagated much of his work and had a much easier and simpler day.
I really like this thread I hope more people post in this. I think many of the newbies (like myself) would find a lot of information out here like is it really a 40 hour job or can it be done in 20?
I know it is a business so you can't sit at a computer for an hour and then go out for an hour to start up your business. I feel many of us know of all the hard work it will take to get off the ground but don't know what life is really like 10 years down the road when everything is in place.
I do know the guru life of sitting in St. Lucia drinking beer everyday while my money piles up... but I would like to know what more people really do. Out of everything I have learned from BP one of the top ones would have to be, forget all the guru talk.
There's 2 different ends of the spectrum. No in-between. If I'm under the gun rehabbing a property, I spend pretty much dawn till dusk on site (and sometimes late into the early morning) as I've found that people who see a for rent sign in the yard and work being done to the property are my hottest tenant prospects. I will easily put in 15-20 hour days here getting properties tenant ready asap and will drop and sleep just about anywhere in my house or the property I'm working in then get up the next day and keep going.
On the other end of the spectrum, when rehab projects are not under the gun, my typical day is I wake up promptly at the crack of noon. I fish out a half empty bottle of limeade and look at the property leads my re agent has sent to me. If they interest me, I might call him on 2 or 3 of them to get instructions how to get in. I'll spend about an hour or two at the max inspecting these properties and having lunch with my agent. I'll tell him what offers to make and he already has copies of my paperwork so he pretty much handles all that. After that, I destroy the known world in Command and Conquer and kill zombies in Resident Evil for a couple hours. Then I call Matt Gil to discuss how hot Sarah Palin is. Afterwards, I'll put in one of the Predator movies, get excited, then go online to look up trophy hunts. Then I pretty much hang out on Bigger Pockets until ridiculous hours of the morning.
I don't know - it's weird. It's kinda like college now....only with money this time.
By spring I should have the first phase done to where I have many less major rehab days and many more screw around days. Honestly I'd like to get to the point of travelling 3 weeks and being in the office 1 week by spring and I think I can hit that.
You can delegate a lot in time (after you have enough properties to cover the overhead) but the key is managing your delegation. Trump said it best when he said to trust no one. I have found that I could delegate a lot of aspects of tenanted, performing properties but the rehab side of my business, I have to be on site and cracking the whip.
Incidentally, the one who said he delegated and "had a much easier day" also said he invested part time for 20 years while working as an employee before living off his RE investments. Frankly I'm not willing to wait 1/4 of my life to get out from under some middle manager's thumb and will gladly take some harder days now for the freedom of work I enjoy.
:roll: this is EXACTLY how I pictured you spent your days. Thank you for writing this out, for future references and jabs I may make at you Tim, be prepared.
I'm studying part time, and the rest of the time I work on marketing and research. I'm a lot smaller scale than a lot of the people on here, and I rely on other work to supplement my income. I have a technology background and do a lot of consulting work.
Sometimes I feel like I'm over-extended. I'd love to ditch some of the low paying, but reliable clients, and have enough from real estate alone.
That's an easy question. Spend half your day on BiggerPockets and the other half of your day out putting to practice and doing what you learned in the first 4 hours of the day on BiggerPockets :mrgreen:
I most definitely have to be crazy to work for you, as hard as do!
Since I am not an investor myself (however..I will leave this blank), and Matt did not answer the question, I feel the need to answer this for him. He can add to, if he would like...
Wakes up at a decent hour, oh! 8:30ish (getting out and about, now thats another story). Calls his super-fanstastic-Realtor Dusty (me), and nags at her how she has only gotten him 7 properties under contract that week, and gives her a work load of other brainstorms he wishes to accomplish by the end of the day (bah!)
Then proceeds to the computer (if he wasn't there already whilst nagging) and reads business and investment (oh and motorcycle) articles till he is bored. Makes another call to his ultra-marvelous-Realtor, asks her a few questions about things she has updated him on umpteen times, and says "oh, sorry for the last 60 seconds or so, I wasn't listening" so he makes her repeat herself, for his own sick entertainment.
"pretends" to be taking care of some unfinished business... (my guess, thinking up more jobs to add to Dusty's WGREI workload) for a few more hours.
Calls his wonderful-gorgeous-Realtor Dusty again because "we" eh-hum "he" forgot to tell his BP something, and wants her to email it to him, because he doesn't want to listen her tell him the details.
Calls Tim to see what level he is on in Resident Evil.
Maybe take in a movie after a long stressful day.
Waits for Dusty to call him, for her chance to nag about her stressful day, as he still ingores her, while reading up on motorcycles.
I think that sums it up... where was the real estate part you ask? Just as his super-fantasic-ultra-marvelous-wonderful-gorgeous-Realtor Dusty (me)
I think many of the newbies (like myself) would find a lot of information out here like is it really a 40 hour job or can it be done in 20?
As the others said, when you first start, it can easily be a LOT of 12 hour (or longer) work days. I did that for a solid couple of years.
Now that my business is semi-stabilized, my business has changed. I get up at about 6am every morning (habit). I watch TV; read BP; and catch up on my e-mail. At about 10 am to 11 am, I head into town to do whatever rental property business I will do that day. Typically, that might involve fixing something and then doing some rehab work, along with showing a rental or two. I normally quit about 3-4 hours later (around 3pm). Then, I head for home and do something like ride my bicycle (usually 8 - 10 miles each afternoon).
I usually work this schedule 4 days a week and then take a 3 day weekend, unless we're camping or on a snowboarding trip. If I need a 4 day weekend, then I will work an extra hour or two on the days that I work.
Got to thinking about this. None of my days have had those "calls in the night". And I think a big part of it may be the plumbing setup. All of my houses are single story or have plumbing on the first floor only and they all have unfinished basements. The "calls in the night" I always got in the insurance business were leak related and invariably they were emergencies because water was going into living space. With this type of construction, there's no living space for the leak to go - it goes to the unfinished basement and down the drain. At worst, it hits the tenants Bob Marley LP collection that cost him more than the house he rents from me. I have gotten calls for leak problems, but always the day after. I think I stumbled onto the benefits of this construction style in management but am incorporating it into my future acquisitions.
As the others said, when you first start, it can easily be a LOT of 12 hour (or longer) work days. I did that for a solid couple of years.
My main goal(one of them I guess) is to be able to goto grad school and have a good foundation set. That way when I graduate, in 3 possibly 4 years, I will be able to do real estate full time which then will hopefully be about 40-50 hours a week. As the days go by I really can't see myself doing anything but real estate.
What do you want to get your degree in in grad school? Will it apply to REI?
Unfortunately Michael it has NOTHING to do with REI. My mother is pretty much forcing me to go (I guess I could always just not) and my dad doesn't mind either way.
The way I am looking at it is I will have 3 (maybe 4) years to get a foundation under my feet with REI and I will not need to worry about living off of it. When I get out of grad school and if I can't fully be REI full time I will have a great job. If I can get out full time REI, then, Heck yes! I told my dad thats what I want to do and he said he doesn't care what I do as long as I am happy, which is why he doesn't care if I go or not.
If you would like to start a BP petition telling my parents just to give me the money they would spend on me for school to apply to REI I would love it... :lol:
Unfortunately Michael it has NOTHING to do with REI. My mother is pretty much forcing me to go (I guess I could always just not) and my dad doesn't mind either way....If you would like to start a BP petition telling my parents just to give me the money they would spend on me for school to apply to REI I would love it... :lol: