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Real Estate Investor · Jacksonville, FL


WHAT IS GENERALLY A GOOD CAP RATE AND NOI FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS?


Commercial Real Estate Broker · Walnut Creek, California


Adarrin,
That is going to depend on the geographic area and the tenants. It also will depend on what you as an investor expect to get as a return versus the risk you are taking.

For instance San Francisco, CA has a cap rate of 4-5% for multifamily buildings. In Fresno, CA you shouldn't buy a multifamily for less than a 8% cap rate.

In the current market I would suggest that you base any value calculations on today's actual income information. Proforma rents may be trending down, not up.


Real Estate Investor · Ohio


For instance San Francisco, CA has a cap rate of 4-5% for multifamily buildings. In Fresno, CA you shouldn't buy a multifamily for less than a 8% cap rate.

Those cap rates for residential multi-family properties are simply telling you that these properties are overpriced (by a bunch). These properties are guaranteed to bleed cash!

Mike


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Mike, tell us what cap rate a commercial building would have cash flow.

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Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


Forget cap rate you need to worry about caps lock.


SFR Investor · Rancho Cucamonga, California


To get cap rate is NOI (Net Operating Income) / Purchase Price. But technically it does not have a direct relationship to cashflow.

Cashflow is a function of your downpayment and cost of capital.

As a rule of thumb, a property will not cashflow if the cap rate is less then your loans interest rate.

What stuff sells for has a lot to do with geography and type of building.

In Southern California -
Multifamily - 4-7%
Commercial - 6-8%

Typically speaking, the more desirable areas the lower the cap rate is.

IE: A property in Newport Beach might sell at a cap rate of 4% and a property in Barstow might sell at an 8% cap rate.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Originally posted by Mr_Investor
Forget cap rate you need to worry about caps lock.

That's hilarious!! :lol: :lol:

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Real Estate Investor · Baltimore, Maryland


If memory serves me correctly the technical definition of a cap rate is the return an investor would expect in the first 12 months of an investment if they paid all cash for that investment.

And... typically the less the cap rate the less risky the investment.

When figuring the NOI you should use your numbers just like you were managing it. So many brokers/sellers will provide setups for a property that don't represent how the property should be managed. Things like rents "could" increased and then use those rents as the income... and of course no one has maintenace or vacancies... but I can assure you, you will.

I have heard that the cap rate on a building you purchase should be at least 2 points higher then the cost of that money.

Frankly... that still wouldn't be a deal for me. I guess I like the risker stuff because I know I have the ability to upside manage it.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


I agree Peter and tehrefore go for the double digit cap rates as I prefer the upsides.

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Commercial Lender · Ocala, Florida


A decent CAP Rate in Florida, would be 8-10%+....BUT, if you are not paying all cash, then you must take into consideration the Mortgage Financing-(Debt Service) Payments that will also have to be paid-out. This is factored-in, AFTER, the NOI is calculated & the CAP Rate is established. The underlying Cash-Flow from the Property/Operators is critical to know, & make sure that it will seem to continue to come in on a steady basis.
We have a Lender who is doing Investor Properties @ 7.19% right now, based on at least a 20 yr. Amort., so use those numbers in an Amortization Program, factor in your Debt Service Payment, subtract that number also from the NOI, & see if you truly have a deal, or not.


Commercial Lender · Ocala, Florida


A great CAP Rate is always said to be 10%+....but, that is the return, only if you pay all cash on the Property. Mostly, you also have a Loan against the Property, & that has to be deducted from the NOI numbers, to get your real return...& divided into your Investment is the Cash-On-Cash return.
You also want to look seriously at the underlying Business & their Financials, to make sure you will seemingly keep getting that monthly check from them.


· Houston, Texas


Originally posted by Adarrin Smith
WHAT IS GENERALLY A GOOD CAP RATE AND NOI FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS?


Adarrin,

This is an excellent question and one that can generate several answers.

A cap rate--in the sense used in the answers here-- is the NOI for a stabilized asset over it's purchase price.

A cap rate IS NOT...

- an indicator of cash flow, only CASH is...

- an indicator of value

- an indicator of whether you should purchase

A cap rate is

- a VERY loose measure on whether to do further research on the prospective investment

- often used as jargon to sound like a good investment and cloak for cash flow...

There is also a very big difference between an unleveraged cash yield (cap rate) and a leveraged cash yield (cap rate)

An unleveraged cash yield (cap rate) is NOI over purchase price -- which includes ALL closing costs

A leveraged cash yield (cap rate) is NOI after debt service over equity (Purchase price plus closing costs less debt)

Typically (used very loosely) your leveraged cash yield (cap rate) will be higher than your unleveraged becuase of the positive leverage of debt. If that's NOT the case you are negatively leveraged, which means the cost of your debt capital is MORE than the yield on your equity capital.

Hope that helps.

R Sean


Commercial Real Estate Broker · Nashville, Tennessee


THe cap rate is used simply to compare two similar income producing properties. It is the rate at which a property's income is being capitalized expressed as a percentage of the purchase price of the property.

It is a ratio used to compare one property against another, and should not be used as the sole factor in determining whether a property should be purchased.

Mathematically, it is defined by the equation:
Net Operating Income / Purchase price (or Estimated Value).

Since NOI is cash flow, your cap rate will have a direct relationship to cash flow. Holding all other things constant, if cash flow decreases, Cap rate decreases. This means that the net income (if any) is being capitalized at a slower rate compared to the purchase price or value of the property.

For instance, if one pays 1,000,000 for a property with an NOI of 100,000 the cap rate for that property would be 10%. If a similar property next door had a NOI of 80,000 with the same purchase price of 1,000,000 the cap rate would be 8%.

What that means is that the first property is capitalziing income at a rate of 10% of the purchase price per year. The second property is generating 8% of the purchase price per year. Again, holding all things equal, tenant type, quality of tenants and leases, expenses, etc. You would purchase property #1 over property #2 because it is returning a higher percentage of the purchase price. Your investment is being recouped quicker.

Again, the cap rate is a mathematical expression used to compare two relatively similar income producing properties.

It has nothing to do with tenant type or geographical location. It is simply a mathematical expression, like expenses/sf. However, since it is generally expected that newer buildings will have higher rents than older buildings, and high quality tenants will pay more for nicer space then a fledgling business would pay Cap rates are expected to be lower in new construction properties, and high quality assets, like high rises in urban areas.

You can extrapolate that further and make generalizations about geographic areas, saying that a certain neighborhood is known for better quality buildings and therefore might have a lower cap rate overall than the neighborhood one zip code over.

Analyzing details about income and expenses, tenant quality, and demographics about the property neighborhood are more important than analyzing cap rate, in my opinion.

The cap rate is a valuable tool to compare two like income producing properties.

Hope that helps.


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