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What are the things to look for in an apartment building for sale for the new investor.


BiggerPockets Founder · Denver, Colorado


That's a pretty broad question. Can you be a little more specific?

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My meaning is conidition of the building, location, rents vs expenses, how many rentors they have and turnover. What are key things that should stand out to me looking at purchase of this nature.


Commercial Lender · Seattle, Washington


Vince, you should consider all the things you listed when buying property. A broker will be able to help you evaluate potential purchases. An important thing to look for that you didn't mention...the property should cash flow.


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apartment building for sale for the new investor

I would offer that an apartment building may not be a wise initial investment for a "new" investor.

Almost all apartments can look good on paper, all you have to do is minimize expenses and exaggerate income. This stuff is very hard to discern when you are new.


Property Manager · Passaic, New Jersey


if the numbers work on paper that's step one. Since sellers are generally not eager to turn over access to their checkbook or tax returns without actually being in contract or in due diligence you can do a little investigating on your own. The tax assessor will give you the legal ownership entity of the building and what the annual taxes are so you can confirm this figure. I then go to the eviction clerk and ask them politely to run the owner's name in their database. This tells me how frequently they evict tenants; about how many are repeat non-payers etc. I've seen some buildings where the owner says 95% always pay on time only to later find out he takes half the building to court each month. You need your income flowing to pay your bills. I've sent my friends to "shop" for a vacant apartment in the building to even judge the condition of the unit and get a sampling of the components. Older buildings require more repairs and maintenance. Are the walls plaster lathe, sheetrock, are waste lines cast iron, PVC, do you have toilets with tanks or flushometers? The older the structure, the more that breaks down.


Real Estate Investor · Tennessee


Originally posted by Vince O Hara
What are the things to look for in an apartment building for sale for the new investor.

Does it stack up financially

Ease of acquiring new tenants

Type of tenants the asset attracts

For the financials take either current or maximum effective rent total, then deduct expenses such as 10% for vacancies, 10% for repairs, property taxes, insurance, lawncare, loan payment - commerical note with a 20-year amortization schedule at 6.75%

you should then get an idea of what the NOI/cap rate/cash on cash return fgures are

I would not go into apartment buildings as a first project - they are more complex than people anticipate. start with duplexes or quads.

I think the sweet spot for the first level of multi-family commerical is 70-80 units.

At this level you can hire a full time maintenance guy but still run the management yourself without it becoming too much of a burden.

I'm currently at 50 units and am looking to get to the 75-100 unit level in the next year


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


Is managing 50 units a full time job? Or, do you do this part time and hold down another job?

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Real Estate Investor · Central, New Jersey


Originally posted by DixieInvestor
I would not go into apartment buildings as a first project - they are more complex than people anticipate. start with duplexes or quads.

I think the sweet spot for the first level of multi-family commerical is 70-80 units.

At this level you can hire a full time maintenance guy but still run the management yourself without it becoming too much of a burden.

I'm currently at 50 units and am looking to get to the 75-100 unit level in the next year

Are you saying start with 2-4 units then jump to 70-80?

Is this 50 unit your first property or just your first investment in apartments?



Commercial Real Estate Broker · Charlotte, North Carolina


The first items I look for in analyzing a new complex is "do the numbers make sense?" I speacilize in selling apartment complexes and we need to look at the preliminary numbers before we consider moving forward. If the property looks good ww then move forward with a LOI (Letter of Intent) this will help spell out the terms you are will to offer for the property without having to committ anything. If the LOI is accepted that starts your due diligence period, this is were you can find out the "real" numbers and do you property inspections. After the due diligence period is over you can make a more informed decision to move forward or back away from that particular opportunity. In any case, alway ask questions. The only dumb question is the one that is not asked.


Real Estate Investor · Ohio


What are the things to look for in an apartment building for sale for the new investor.

If you have to ask, you're not ready to buy an apartment building! As Dixie said, I would start much smaller. In my opinion, single family houses make the best first rentals. They are more forgiving with generally better tenants; better appreciation; and fewer management challenges.

However, to answer your question directly, I look for apartment buildings that have a positive cash flow of $100 per unit per month with REAL WORLD operating expenses. If you don't understand this issue, do a search of the 50% rule.

Good Luck,

Mike


Commercial Lender · Phoenix, Arizona


I would have to agree with Mike 100% on this getting into multifamily is not something you start off with, possibly start with 4-plex's, to get an idea of how things operate.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


"I think the sweet spot for the first level of multi-family commerical is 70-80 units."
I would have to say that this statement is way off the charts. EVERY full-time professional apartment investor I know has said time and again that an investor new to commercial multifamily should start off with no more than 12 units.
As others have mentioned, it is a more complex vehicle than your average SFR and ONE mistake could put you into foreclosure or bankruptcy.

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