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Commercial Real Estate Broker · Canton, Georgia


So A few items running through my head.

Apartment complex we just acquired.Landlord left over a hundred key snot labeled.

1.I was thinking is it possible for a locksmith to make a master key that opens ALL doors??I would imagine not as they are different lock sets replaced over time.

2.In the lease there are no pets listed but many tenants have pets.The tenants said they would pay a fee to keep the pets.So Instead of a security deposit I was thinking of a one time "pet acceptance fee".

This way instead of a security deposit having to be escrowed in a separate account the money can be spent right away to increase cash flow.

3.I was thinking to prevent toilet clogs the tenants should put those child safety toilet hinges on top of the lid so they toys etc. do not get stuck in the pipe.

4.One of my tenants cars is sitting in the parking lot without a tag and a flat tire and the tenant says they don't have money to fix.Do I get that hauled away?? It looks junkie and has no tag.

5.Thinking about adding solar lights outside for the night time for security for the buildings and to deter crime.


Residential Landlord · Indianapolis, Indiana


1. I don't think they can just make a master key to existing locks, but you could change all the locks and get a master key that way.

2. I like to get the pet deposit since it is some extra incentive for tenants to keep their pets from damaging the unit, but a one-time fee is nice to get some extra money.

3. It may be difficult to enforce that tenants get the hinges, but you can give them notice that it is required and that will give you more leverage to charge them for any repairs if they don't follow your rules.

4. Give the tenant a week or two to get the car fixed or have it removed. You don't want a broken down car in your lot, but you also don't want to have a bad relationship with the tenants, if you explain that it can't be there and you are giving them some extra time to get it taken care of, that should be a good compromise.

5. I think the lights are a great idea. I had motion activated floodlights and a dusk to dawn light installed at my duplex to try to deter crime and also so my tenants can see where they are going at night.


Real Estate Investor · Orange County, California


Hi Joel,

3. We have in all of our leases a rule that after the second time of a plumbing back up that is tenant inflected, the tenant pays for the plumbing repairs. (Includes toys in toilet, backing up kitchen sink, or drain line clogs from excessive paper towels).

4. The tenant won't typcially get the car fixed if they have a financial issue. Our insurnce comany will not allow unoperating or unregistered cars on the property. Also code enforcement does not allow this. We usually tell the tenant they have 7 days to register the car or remove it, in writing. We give them the number to a vehicale donation company that will remove it for free. Other wise it costs $245 to remove and and we pass that fee on to the tenant. Let the tenant know it is the insurance company and city that has an issue with their car.

5. Besides the lights, have one of the longer term tenants keep an eye on the property for you. We call them granny gooses(they let the neighbors know they are watching the property and we have less problems this way).

Good Luck.


Commercial Real Estate Broker · Canton, Georgia


Thanks everyone.

On the pet deposit these buildings are older from the 80's and the tenants have been there awhile and the carpets have reached the end point.

So I would rather have the upfront pet fee than a deposit.When these tenants move out the carpet will be replaced because of age anyways.If it was brand new carpet just put in I might feel different.

Thanks for the other ideas with the car.

Since I took this over some tenants are saying they don't have the money etc. I say great you will be evicted.I am calling their bluff as if they moved they would have first and last months plus security deposit.

That amount is 3 times more than if they just paid the rent.So unless they are going to be living with family in a basement they will have to pay up.I am just having to do a reconditioning of the tenants and let them know a new "sheriff" is in town.

I knew the problems were bad going in but I paid based on that also so got a great price.It's just a mess to clean up but their is always money in problem solving.


Real Estate Investor · Orange County, California


Hi Joel,

Are you plannning on rising the rents or rehabbing the building to increase value? We have bought many different buildings with low rents at great prices. When we had tenants that could not pay or were on the weekly pay plan(hotel payment plan.... a joke).

We would tell them that if they paid there rent on time, they would go to the top of the list to get repairs/improvements done in their units. We were very suprised with how willing they were to pay and they wanted to know when their turn was to have a nicer apartment. This was especially true with long term tenants.

Do you have the lease applications from the old management company? You might want to reveiw them with the tenants and see if they need to be updated so you can really determine whom has the ability to pay.
Christine


Real Estate Investor · Dallas, Texas


On the pet deposit or fee, I have switched to a monthly charge per pet. More income and security over tiime. The amount depends on the quality of the unit, the newness of the rehab, and possibly the size of the pet.

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Commercial Real Estate Broker · Canton, Georgia


Yes I am planning on raising the rents.It is an A location with older buildings.

The previous landlord just became burned out and let things go with tenants paying full amounts and not fixing deferred maintenance.

Some of the tenants complaints have been repair issues.I told them rent issues and repair issues are completely separate.They are expected to pay rent or will be evicted.Most of the lease are coming due in September.I am not going to give them 1 year long term leases at a reduced rate.

So they have to invest in the process.New roofs are going on in the next 1 to 2 weeks along with other improvements.Currently many of the tenants do not have security deposits.They did originally but the old landlord gave them a credit off of back rent owed and they used up most of their deposits so resigned at zero deposit.

Some have quoted they want new carpet.I will look into it but want a security deposit from them to do it.So a lot of this is them trying to see what they can get away with which will be nothing.

We went out and posted that we are the new owners etc. then a few days later went out again and gave a note and had them sign an acknowledgement form along with the copy of the lease they signed before stating the payment they owed.

Slated to go out and pick up payment on the first.When kind of repairs did you promise to make??

We have to watch the tenants here because they will try and say 1 stove burner is not working to try and get the landlord to pay for a new appliance.

Some of the tenants would say we can't pay and can be out by the 20th etc.I told them this is not acceptable.If they want to be out early then that's fine.If they are going to hold up the unit for the month without paying there is a 100 late fee in the lease,a 200 eviction fee,and we will sue for damages and get a judgement and put late payment and judgement on the credit report.

I want word to travel fast that we are a great landlord but payments are expected or you will be gone period.


Real Estate Investor · Orange County, California


Hi Joel,
Your number one goal should be to collect rent. You need to get new applications filled out to rescreen the tenants, so you can see whom can really pay or not.

The tenant that wants to stay till the 20th, must pay a prorated amount till then or go straight to eviction. Do not let them stay for free. They are honest and telling you they can not pay.

We have only had two tenants leave in all the years we have bought deferred maintenance/ below market rent units.

Since you just introducted your company, sent out a letter informing the tenants that your intent is to give them better living conditions and you will increase rents to market rent, not over market rent. Explain to them that you are an advocate of good living conditions. Tenants relate to this.

Anybody that has no security deposit, must pay one. We prorated this over 90 days, if they had the income to pay for it. With out a security deposit, we would not entertain improved repairs, only necessary ones.

When we newely acquire a property we walked each unit with a hair dryer (checking electrical outlets), broom (unclog garbage disposals), and smoke dectors ( tell tenants not to take the batteries out). We ask the tenants what is wrong with their units and explain that we are doing repairs one unit
at a time and it will take some time.

After we walk the entire property we create a budget and off set it with rent increases. We make sure the repairs are paid for by the building. If you have money set aside for repairs, than do them now and increase the rents.

We ususally replace carpet, tile, and paint. We also will do toliet seats, blinds, caulk tubs, replace sinks, repair any leaks, and remove bug infestations. We have one handyman go out and check all the applicances that tenants reported were not working when we made our list. We repair applicances, not replace them because of missing parts. I will tell tenants, we repair items, not replace them unless we have to. If the tenants are dirty, don't clean, or own a vacumn. We told them to clean and maintain their units.

If the tenants want lower rents, they should move and live in condidtions that are acceptable to them. You have your plans for the investment you bought. Run it like a business.

Always send repair approval items to tenants in writting before the work is started. Have the handyman sign a work contract that states what they are hired to repair( he should be told to only repair what is on the contract). Tell the tenants that all repair requests must be in writing. Keep a log of requests, work orders, and completion dates of work. This will keep you from running to the property every time there is a problem.

Address all plumbing leaks ASAP. We do this the first 48 hours we purchase a building. Sorry about the long answer, you asked a loaded question.

Christine


Commercial Real Estate Broker · Canton, Georgia


Thanks Christine.You and others have lots of great ideas.

There are 20 units total.Rehabbed units get 950 a month.Other units we have that need work get 780 to 860 a month.

I want to get them all above 900 with the improvements.

The property management fee is usually 5%.Instead I have a PM I can trust a child hood friend that is doing an excellent job.He is going to be an onsite PM living in one of the units.I will expense a payment to him for the PM and then he will pay rent to show gross income on the property.

There is an opportunity for more units on the same street so I might acquire more.I can't run them day to day because of my commercial real estate brokerage I own.I figured an onsite person will keep the tenants in check.

Thanks for the help.


Landlord · Seattle, Washington


In Washington state it makes a difference where a vehicle is parked. On street parking is treated differently than a vehicle parked on your premises. A vehicle on the street you can call the state patrol and they will tag the vehicle and it will be towed often in as little as a week.

On your own premises you will probably have to have a private tow company take care of the vehicle. Arrangements with private companies can vary quite a lot.


Note Investor · Pasadena, California


4. As a car guy, just make sure you're not towing away (sending to get crushed) something that someone else might pay for the privilege of restoring.

5. Improving lighting is paramount! Especially if the neighborhood is so-so. A good combination of motion-detector lights and dusk-to-dawns will make the place feel a lot safer. They are coming out with solar-powered LED versions of the above, so those would be a great way to update the feel of the building, improve safety, and save some money (though the LED stuff is still a tad bit overpriced, IMO).

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