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SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


Hello BP,

Yesterday 1/12/12, I got a 6plex under contract in southern California. Four 2bd+1 and Two 1+1. Owner is financing with me putting 30% down. Building is currently fully occupied. What documentation should I ask from the seller. I will be buying and holding the property.

My current list is:
1. Rent roll for 2009, 2010, and 2011.
2. Who is paying utilities? If owner then I need copies of the 3 past bills.
3. Copy of leases. Is everyone current?
4. Copies of bank statements showing regular rent deposits.
5. Who is managing the company currently?

What am I missing? This will be my largest building and I could really use any input not just on paperwork, but what are some deal killers/red flags for you.

Thanks,
Andrew


SFR Investor · Lansing, Michigan


Have you already had an inspection to make sure the building/mechanicals check out? Make sure you also get all the tax information and consider getting title insurance as well.


SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


Patrick thanks for your reply:
I will be getting a professional inspection, already looked into taxes and it is current, and I am getting title insurance without a doubt.


Commercial Loan Officer


I would ask for copies of receipts for any work done to the property and operating statements (YTD and for the past couple years). If the current owner has kept a detailed profit and loss record it will help you to gauge trends in expenses.


Commercial Loan Officer


I would ask for copies of receipts for any work done to the property and operating statements (YTD and for the past couple years). If the current owner has kept a detailed profit and loss record it will help you to gauge trends in expenses.


SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


Darryl thanks for your reply that is an excellent point and will definitely do that.


Real Estate Broker · Beloit, Wisconsin


I always do an inspection for visible issues and document them, have the owner sign. One this is required in some states, two - it protects you from some liability. Check with your state for requirments.


Real Estate Investor · Buffalo, New York


Schedule E tax form from the last 3 years. As long as he does not lie to the IRS it should tell you most of the story as far as income/expense history.


SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


Hello Gary, thanks for replying to my post. Can you explain a little more about what you mean by having the owner sign during inspection. I personally never heard of this. How could it help me reduce liability?


SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


The owner stated that he will be not providing tenant estopples is this a sign for alarm?


Multi-family Investor · South Jordan, Utah


Sorry, what is a "tenant estopple"??


SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


Estoppel is a form filled out by the current tenant verifying that the lease provided is correct and that there are no verbal agreements with the owner.


Real Estate Investor · Cleveland Heights, Ohio


That's a great start, I would definitely add the following to that list:

1. Recent inspection reports. Depending upon the city, you may need point of sale and other various inspections in order to transfer title.

2. Tax returns - you want to see what the actual numbers are.

3. Expense report

4. Recent appraisals, owner should be able to have comps pulled for you

I think that would be sufficient. Also are you having an attorney draw up the paperwork. I do this with every deal to keep myself protected.


SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


Just an update I received the rent roll for the 6plex and lookes like they have been only able to collect 75% of the rent over the last two years. Also the complex is professionally managed and operating at a 55% expense ratio over the past two years. I am thinking I will have to lower my original offer. Based on the rent roll provided my current excepted offer is at a 9 cap, but I wanted to buy at a 10 cap or better because it is a D area. The rents are already at market price. There is also one eviction in process. Any experience dealing with this stage of the deal would be appreciated. We are planning to close by February 1st.


Multi-family Investor


-Get tax info (schedule E, C etc) for past several years;
-copies of leases AND rental applications (leases generally do not have dob or social security info you may need later to evict)
-profit and loss statement - you can usually verify a lot from the local county/state tax assessment website (i.e. water bill, property taxes); contact gas & electric for accurate 1-year monthly average
-get permits/licenses: make sure the property is compliant before-hand with lead permits and any state/city lead or multi-unit licenses and inspections
-of course the inspection will tell you what kind of deferred maintenance there may be and what you can be looking at laying out the next few years
-if you are buying the company (such as an LLC which in turn owns the company) then have an experienced title attorney who handles these also run lien search on both company and property, and update all appropriate filings. In fact, make sure the company (if it is held by one) has current active status with the state. For example, I ran across a good prospect multi-unit lately but the seller (LLC) has been forfeited by the state (for non-payment of personal property taxes by the LLC each year) and now would need to clean that up and reinstate prior to any sale.
-also you can check the background easily on your state's judiciary case search and/or sex offender registry. Don't want to inherit any issues such as that.
Good luck!


SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


Seller is using a knowledgable agent and is not an LLC. Seller is a man turning 70 soon.

I already recieved leases and pnls. Water is the only thing owner pays.


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


I would imagine there is some common-area lighting, and that would imply the owner pays for some electricity.


SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


Steve- yup pnls show a yearly cost of about $150 for common area lighting.


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


When you take over, be sure to have efficient bulbs installed in those common areas (either compact fluorescent or LED). Cost of operation will be lower on the electricity bill, and they have longer life (replacement less frequently = less work to do).


SFR Investor · Los Angeles, California


Great tip Steve. I am definitely trying to reduce all expenses. Especially since I am close to running a negative cash flow because the seller financed loan we agreed on is amortized over only 10 years.




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