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Accountant · St. Paul, Minnesota


How much can one expect in revenue from adding coin-ops in a 4-plex? I have seen some listings which advertise $50-$75/week, is this a good estimate? Also, has anyone dealt with the maintenence of these things? Does this offer a good return considering all of the risks associated with them?

Thanks everyone,
Phil


SFR Investor · Long Beach, California


I would recommend having a vendor provide the machines and split the revenue with you. They take care of the maintenance in that situation. Another factor from a revenue stand point is the condition and safety of the laundry room. If the room is not well lit, or not protected as well as other parts of the building, your tenants will be less likely to use the facility. You also want to make sure the room and the machines are being cleaned often.


· Loveland, CO


Revenue is not the same as INCOME, which is really what you're after!

I don't know how typical we are but when we were working we did 4 loads a week, on average. 16 loads in a 4-plex, generating $4/load, $64 sounds a bit high to me. $4 PROFIT per load sounds ridiculously high.

What is that going to do to your water/sewer and gas or electric heat bill?

If it's plumbed for W/Ds I'd let the tenants just do their own. But that brings up the question of how to account for the water and utility use. Unless each system is routed through the corresponding units plumbing.

BTW, years ago my wife had the responsbility for operating a coin laundry, long story! Nothing ruined a "date night" more than the call from an irate customer saying "the da**ed dryer ate my socks, come retrieve them!"

Frank


· OR


A coin laundry on site would be better than dragging clothes out to the laundromat.

The only value I can see would be that it would help rent the units. It's not likely to make much money, because you will have utilities, machine repairs, and lots of cleaning to do.

In marginal areas, you will also risk break-ins and damage to the machines.

The folks I've talked to that have the contracts with laundry machine companies say "don't do it". The contracts are miserably hard to get out of, and they are talking the profits, while you get most of the expenses.

If you want coin machines, just buy them yourself.


Real Estate Investor · San Jose, California


In a multi-unit, it helps rent the unit out. Machine is mainly there for convenience. I own the machine. When you lease, you pay for all the expense and share profit. I had the pump replace couple years ago, other than that, I had no problems. I would install a lent trapper on the discharge of the washer. Over time, this can buildup and clogged the drain. I would buy used, go with a trust worthy brand like whirlpool. With a 4-plex, your not really going to make a lot of money but as long as it covers expenses that should be fine.


Real Estate Investor · Cottonwood Heights, Utah


I have a 4plex with a coin op laundry. We have about $200 a month in revenue, I split it 70-30 with a leasing company so end up pocketing ~$130 a month. Expenses are about $80 a month so I end up netting about $50/month. It's not a huge money maker for me but $50 a month is a modest dinner out or a couple nice bottles of wine.

I would never recommend working with leasing companies unless you are a good negotiator. You will find weird things in your contract like it automatically renewing for long durations, the contract applying to owners, heirs and assigns (meaning it applies to future owners, whether they like it or not).

When I bought the 4plex, the previous owners negotiated a 15 year lease with a 50-50 split. The lease also automatically renewed for a subsequent 15 year term. I threatened to lock up their washers and driers in a closet unless they changed the terms. End result was a 30 month term, 70-30 split (in my favor) and I get to keep the washers at the end of the 30 months.

The real benefit is more for the tenants rather than for me. If I was serious about running a laundry facility, I'd go buy one. Until then, I'll enjoy the bottle of wine and dinner.


Accountant · St. Paul, Minnesota


Lee, I am suprised a leasing company can even make money off of a 4-unit. Especially when split is 70/30 in your favor. I was trying to model this to see if it made sense to start a leasing company as I don't think there are many in the my area. I am curious, how often do you need to call for repairs and how long do you think a washer dryer pair will last?

Thanks,
Phil


Real Estate Investor · Southlake, Texas


I would assume that you're receiving revenue from neighbors to generate those numbers?

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Real Estate Investor · sioux falls, South Dakota


I have a 150 plus unit apt in Garland. When I purchased it 8 months ago, our montly revenue was about $1500 from the supplier of the machines. A contract was in place and they have not maintained the machines and the revenue has dropped to nearly nothing. We have served notice we're cancelling the contract if new machines are not installed. Otherwise, we'll place machines on the street and bring in a new supplier. I agree that the laundry in most instances is just a convenience thing, not a money maker. Rich


Property Manager · Passaic, New Jersey


I've had laundry concession companies for years. This year I installed my own equipment - 4 machines-2 washers/2 dryers for 35 units. Income is about $450 a month with vend prices at $1.25 per load ($5400 per year). I think it depends on what you want. Machines new were $2900. Your equipment is paid off in a few months. If you opt for machines supplied and serviced you generally give up half of your income to the company but you have no liability for the equipment. Your electric/water/heating expense however remains yours.




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