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Residential Real Estate Agent · St. Louis, Missouri


So the house I flipped has not sold and I am at the point where I believe potentially it will be more beneficial to rent out. I have already planned to screen using BP's recommended screening service. Couple of questions here, I was going to us an electronic withdrawl from the potential tenants bank account, what are your experiences with that.

Secondly, I am a total newbie Landlord. What tips/advice can you give me to make this experience less painful? I am hoping to learn from others mistakes. Any and all information is appreciated!


Wholesaler · Valley City, Ohio


George,

This may be a blessing in disguise. This is a great opportunity to sell it on short term owner financing. I do quite a few of these and they are really a great way to make some coin now, residually, and in the future all on the same house.

Here is an example. Lets say you want 100k for your home and you would like 1k per month rent. You can offer it out at 5k down, 100k purchase price, and 1k per month. For every month they pay on time, you will credit them 20% toward the purchase price, so it will knock 200 per month off of the price. You then balloon it out in 36 months. They need to get financing at the end of your deal. In the event they do not buy, they loose all of their credits and their downpayment. You also have them do their own repairs on the property while they are buying it.

I have glossed over a lot of details, but this is a good woking outline. Good luck, you will be fine even if you just rent it. Single family homes are the easiest investments to manage.

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Real Estate Investor · Holly Springs, North Carolina


Rob, are your "tenants" getting a deed or a lease? WADR, this doesn't sound like a sale with short term owner financing. You collect rent with 20% credit off a future price, and it's up to them to finance at the balloon. Sounds like a lease purchase.

George, you need to be careful with a lease pruchase or lease option "programs". In some states, like NC, there were too many abuses going on so the state now regulates Purchase Contracts Executed With Lease Agreements. Check your state for regulations or consult with an attorney.

In some states, the "In the event they do not buy, they loose all of their credits and their downpayment" would apply only if the condition of forfeiture was in writing and explicitly specified up front.


Wholesaler · Valley City, Ohio


Originally posted by Chris Martin
Rob, are your "tenants" getting a deed or a lease? WADR, this doesn't sound like a sale with short term owner financing. You collect rent with 20% credit off a future price, and it's up to them to finance at the balloon. Sounds like a lease purchase.

George, you need to be careful with a lease pruchase or lease option "programs". In some states, like NC, there were too many abuses going on so the state now regulates Purchase Contracts Executed With Lease Agreements. Check your state for regulations or consult with an attorney.

In some states, the "In the event they do not buy, they loose all of their credits and their downpayment" would apply only if the condition of forfeiture was in writing and explicitly specified up front.

You are absolutely correct in advising him to seek local advice on laws and regulations. I do many types of financing, but you are correct in this one, i am suggesting a lease purchase. In my paperwork, I not only disclose that the money is not refundable and does not have a cash vale in the event they do not buy, I have them write it out in their own handwriting at signing. I also use a separate lease with a separate option agreement.

Like I said, I am glossing over a lot of details.

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Real Estate Investor · Phoenix, Arizona


George, there is a lot to learn about being a landlord, and most of it will be learned from experience. A few tips I wish I knew about when I first started was 1. get a good lease agreement. Not the cheesy ones you buy at office supply stores. If you are a member of ARPOLA they have free lease agreements that are state specific. You want the agreement to cover every aspect and bad scenario you can possibly imagine. So when it happens, both the tenant and landlord know what is expected of them. Get everything in writing, no verbal agreements EVER!! 2. Be a member of ARPOLA, it's only $35/year and it more than pays for itself. They also offer tenant screening at a very reasonable price. 3. Take photos of EVERYTHING before the tenant moves in and have them sign it on their move in date. 4. Don't let them push you around, be firm with the rules, it's a business relationship and nothing more. If you let them slide with late rent for one month they'll take advantage of you and assume they can do that every month. 5. And last, admit that situations will come up that you won't know what to do and will probably make a bad decision. You will make mistakes, it's part of the learning process. Nobody is perfect the first time around. I also recommend picking up a copy of "Landlording" by Leigh Robinson. Good luck!


Residential Real Estate Agent · St. Louis, Missouri


Thank you everyone for the responses!!! I love this site.




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