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Residential Real Estate Agent · Circleville, Ohio


Where do you normally go to get supplies to do a rehab?

I'm still trying to find where to get less expensive supplies like Flooring, cabnets, countertops, paint and the like.

I don't have a contractors license or such, and have been told by a few people there's plenty of places out there that have deep discounts on supplies.


Real Estate Investor · Portland, Oregon


Yes, you probably can get discounts at certain places...

Larger items like carpet and cabinets you could shop around. Other than that... I go to Home Depot.

I have found that all the extra time and effort "looking" for the best deal doesn't really help that much, and for me, is not worth the effort and extra time.

Im ok knowing that I paid an extra $1000 or so for supplies and materials, but was able to make it easier, while not spending days shopping around and driving in circles picking stuff up.

I would rather use that time looking for my next deal, instead of trying to save a couple bucks.


Real Estate Investor · Portland, Oregon


P.S. Everything you do should be a " Time" vs. " Money" thought process.

Where can your time be best used?

If you save $1000 on supplies by spending say 3 days shopping around, you made $333 a day for shopping...

But if you found a new 20k deal in that same 3 days, you made over $6600 a day.

You choose...

P.P.S. Plus, I hate "shopping".


Real Estate Investor · Las Vegas, Nevada


If you are doing a number of rehabs you can save money by standardizing your materials. I use the same paint and other basic materials on most of my projects. This allows me to buy in bulk without worrying about having too much. Any leftover material just goes to the next project. I tend to use Home depot and Lowe's for most things, this saves a lot of time. However, if I find a good deal on something I will buy it for future use. If your project is a one shot deal, this method probably won't work.

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Real Estate Investor · Standish, MI


Make sure if you're buying from Lowes or Home Depot you always use 10% off coupons. You can have them sent to you any time for free or you can buy them on ebay for about $1 each.

They can really add up after a while.

I wouldn't buy the 20% off coupons because they are fake and you may have issues using them.

They were originally given out for Christmas 06 for use by employees and expired in 07 but people have scanned them, altered expiration dates, and print them out and sell them.


Residential Real Estate Agent · Circleville, Ohio


Thanks for the replies....

I can't say that i'm EXACTLY looking for a super good place, and you're right about materials vs time spent.

Have you ever delt with their contractor department? Do they offer discounts at all?

As for the 10% thing...I do know about it, as they are partnered with NAR for providing discounts to us.


Real Estate Investor · San Jose, California


I agree with EricFoster. I usually just buy at Home Depot since it's only 2.5 mile away from my house. I'm always returning stuff since I always buy more than I need, I hate going back to get more. As far as buying cabinets, I buy during winter season since most places have 50% off to get rid of inventory. Overall, I find the best deals at places where there is no fancy showroom.


Property Manager · Honolulu, HI


For those with many properties in a given area, it is not usually difficult to set up a commercial account with HD or other vendors, which affords varied degrees of discount.

For those with their own shop, many of these vendors also have a " rack" program, where they will set up racks/bins in YOUR facility, stock the items you specify, maintain levels you specify, and bill you on terms. This is sweet, and works great for small to midsize PM operations. No need to GO shopping!


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The big box stores rarely have the best prices or the best quality.

There is a lumber yard that most of the contractors use for their lumber. They deliver and it is all good and I don't have to waste my time picking through it, trying to find straight boards that aren't split or damaged.

Plywood comes from a different lumber yard.

Roofing comes from the roofing supply store where the roofing contractors by their roofing. I get better stuff, more selection, fast roof top delivery, and the material isn't damaged. Plus they hae all the niggledy little parts and trims that are needed. The big stores don't even carry ice shield.

Lowe's has the best prices on carpet, vinyl, and appliances in my area.

For kitchen cabuinets, I would ask a local cabinet builder to give me an estimate for " landlord" cabinets. I'd rather pay him to make me cabinets out of pine plywood than to pay just as much for the pressed sawdust junk from the big box stores, with some asembly required. (and I can repair and re-paint almost any cabinet, so I don't buy new very often)

Countertops, a local business can usually give you a much better price on corian.

I get better tile at the tile store. Color Tile is often good, but some of the other guys will have super deals on their small lots remainders. I only use porcelain, but the big box stores run good sprecials on cheap ceramic, if it happens to be the look and durability you want.

There's a local discount wood flloor place that sells prefinished hard wood flooring with good selection and good prices, but raw hardwoods, I go direct to the mill (which would only be for top of the line, to pay for all the finishing when pre-finished is so easy.)

Some of these guys, I can call and order and I'll get just whay I want delevered. That makes up for some of the time of driving around to shop.

A for driving around: just the right material can make a world of difference over one that is " almost as good, but not quite"

Do it once, do it right.


· OR


If you are rehabbing, not a rental, you can make killer oak butcher block counter tops out of raw oak flooring.


Contractor · spring hill, FL


I can refinish ANY cabinets cheaper than they can probably be bought in many cases. I can fix them too beforehand. I dont do formica, but I can paint ANY color with an alphalitic hydrocarbon porcelain solid AND color, fixing chips, swells, you name it, in 1 day. I can do the same and get you new doors which YOU use a program to design and I charge no markup, and get a client discount too.

Or

I can laminate ANY of them with REAL WOOD ANY SPECIES and professionally finish them in any stain or just a clear coat, EXCEPT this option the doors MUST be replaced in the same species of solid wood, which I have made and you get to design them from a choice of about 15 different combos. I pay 40% sometimes less than a lot of cabinet builders for doors. I got 36 cathedral solid oak in my huge kitchen for $900. I dont mark that up either. The insides stay the same or can be painted with the above paint, but they appear INDISTINGUISHABLE from solid wood. I do it for a for a lot less than some FORMICA guys.

One bid the lady showed me sears quoted 7000 for relaminating her kitchen. I quoted her 3500 on the real wood job.

Usualy customers have me redo their top in a specialized series of expensive topcoats that have a stone look, and I put flexwood trim around the edge of the formica top first and fill all cracks then sand, prime, paint, and apply up to 6 coats of the hardest clearcoat I have ever seen. Usualy mistaken for corian. Product i use is marketed to look like granite, but really, corian. Without the flexwood, looks like formica still just very shiny and pretty. $25-35 a LINEAR foot. Not much more than a cheap prefab formica top except theres a 5 year warranty on mine and it looks a hell of a lot better.

So, sometimes buying is not even the cheapest option!


Contractor · spring hill, FL


Hardwood floors Lowes 1.78 a SF machined oak. 10% off coupons help.

Tubs tile, showers, cabinets can be painted for a very reasonable price by people in my line of work, in a day.

I Never replace cabinets, I fix themand laminate them in wod venner and have the doors made custom. Here is my secret link http://www.sierracabinetdoor.com

Cheapest BY FAR. Made in Mexico, he ships them in and out from TExas. ike 10 types of wood and you design yourself with 25 possibilities.

Vanities: Paint them. Use melamine home dept aint and a auto spray gun if possible. replace anything broken it will be hidden by paint.

Appliances: USED

Tile: Now I paint them and just get the cheapest money can buy, even mismatched colors. Before I got it at a supply shop up the street. 50 cents a sf and up. Typically, your gonna pay a buck or more for decent tile no matter what.

Pergo: Same place. .69 cents a foot.

Cabinet pulls, ceiling tile, pool pumps, crown molding: EBAY! Lots of knock off fake products that look real. 25 cents a foot for platic crown, .99 a sf metallic painted ceiling tile, even the real thing was way cheaper. Solid nickel cabinet bar pulls were like 8 each, 12 inches long. For expensive decorative stuff, check ebay for alternatives. Also, a good alternative to ceiling tile is ceiling tile textured WALLPAPER. probably 20 cents a SF at lowes. Looks good as a wainscot too.

Paint: WAL MART!! 9.99 a gallon for color place paint. READ CAREFULLY; ITS MADE BY SHERWIN WILLIAMS!!!! Good paint for theprice! Better than ANY glidden.

Doors: Flea market.

Garage doors: Used in newspaper

Tools: Harbor freight, or online at NORTHERN TOOL! Cheapo knockoffs that last long enough to let you not care when they break.

Best investment EVER: Graco airless spray paint gun. 5 gallon bucket design. 600 bucks Home Depot, the outside of a house was done in 2 hours, the inside in an hour.

Or, pick up an HVLP gun and 4 stage turbine compressor and learn to paint your tubs and such. I did, now its my business. Theres your best material place there. 50 bucks to redo a tub TOPS, 200 for a counter tops, 100 to repaint your cabinets tops, probably 20 cents a SF to do tile tops, BUT its not as easy as it sounds, it really takes skill. You can use midwest chemicals for the chemicals, about the best. The gun will cost around 900-1200 for the kit, both the hose, turbine and gun. But, the gun will pay for itself inone jobIF you can paint without runs or dryspray in your paintjob. They will guide you on the phone to kind of tell you what to use at midwest. I don't recommend te risk unless you canrent anhvlp rig and see if you have the inborn talent to paint, because most people cant just pick up one and paint a tub. Counters are easier though, cabinets are hard like a tub. Most likely you will try it once and never do it again without guidance. Its so hard to do a tub, I STILL get runs time to time, luckily I can fix them with a little device i rigged up. But on a scale of 1-10 its probably a 8-9 in difficulty as a beginner. And, the chemicals are so TOXIC 3 minutes around the fumes without a respirator and you will be struggling for air for 2 days. It can kill you! Not like rust oleum, this stuff is NASTY.



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Residential Real Estate Agent · Dearborn, MI


Lowes or Home Depot...

heck maybe even eBay if you want to wait a few days for shipment


Real Estate Investor · Phoenix, Arizona


Where do you get these 10% off coupons?! :)


Real Estate Investor · San Jose, California


Originally posted by Colin Ralls
Where do you get these 10% off coupons?! :)


Colin,

You get can get HD coupons by opening a HD credit card. From time to time, they will mail you coupons. I'm sure Lowes would be the same way. It's also a good way to track your expenses. I only charge property expenses to this card. The HD gives you monthly statements and list all the items you bought at HD which is great!


Real Estate Investor · Phoenix, Arizona


Thanks Eric,

Maybe I should invest in a HD credit card. haha


Real Estate Investor · St. Louis, Missouri


You can find 10% coupons on ebay. I used them on my last major rehab. Spent about $35 on coupons and saved over $750.


Real Estate Investor · Middletown, New Jersey


I've bought those coupons on eBay as well. Lowe's and Home Depot will honor each other's coupons.



If you go to homedepot moving and lowes moving sites you can request them. You can also get them when you do your change of address online via the usps website.
If you sign up with lowes's and homedepot's websites you will get coupons occasionally was well


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