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Real Estate Investor · Hoboken, New Jersey


Hey everyone,
So I have a small section of the back yard on this rehab which has cement slab on it that is all cracked. Its still solidly in place it just looks bad. I don' t have money in the budget to have it replaced. I was thinking about using paving stones since its only about 250-300 sq ft. Has anyone used these to cover over cement slab before? Do they work well? Will this even work? What costs have you seen to do it?


Real Estate Investor · Dearborn, Michigan


Bob,
Let me make some suggestion for you, first) Yes you can put pavers over an existing slab of concrete, however if the concrete is not leveled this would make the project look even worse then it does now. By leveled I mean different heights on the slab.
If slab is pretty smooth you can go to your local landscape supply shop and pick up several tubes of paver glue, just make sure your surface is very clean. The finsh look does look good.

Second) build a paver patio! you can get pavers right around $1.75 sq ft.(or even cheaper) which if your patio is 300 sq ft. your looking at a cost for pavers $525.00 with out tax. You would need 3 yards of crushed limestone right around $25/yd and 1 yd slag sand or play sand $25/yd. Then you linear footage in brick edge $25 and $50 delv charge

So for $175.00 more you could have a brand new patio and thats not including the glue you would need to purchase if you keep that exisiting slab.

Third) you good raise the height of the existing slab by pouring your own concrete (less than 2") with self leveling concrete it will fill in all gaps then you screen for perfection.
self leveling concrete cost right around $20 for 80lb bag

If you have any questions or would like some advice on how to construct something like this I'm here to help.

Thank You
Greg Rankel
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Real Estate Investor · Paramus, New Jersey


I have installed over concrete and it looked great. If you have major elevation changes you can even it all out with a sand or stone dust bed. Same concept as installing new pavers on sand.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Gregory made some viable suggestions. Another less expensive option would be to paint the concrete. I have seen many patios with painted concrete and it looks great. Make sure you lay down a primer coat FIRST and you can also fill in the cracks to conceal them.

I also like the idea (although more expensive) is to just demo the current slab and then lay some pavers down, makes for a nice new and level patio.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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General Contractor · San Luis Obispo, California


Depending on the reinforcement, I have broken the slab further in to smaller slabs and grouted the joints with mortor mix and then used a simi transperant stain to color the slab. Looks great. Dean


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Another cost effective alternative.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Real Estate Investor · Dallas, Texas


Originally posted by Dean Powers
Depending on the reinforcement, I have broken the slab further in to smaller slabs and grouted the joints with mortor mix and then used a simi transperant stain to color the slab. Looks great. Dean

I like this idea Dean!


Real Estate Investor · Hoboken, New Jersey


Wow thanks guys! There are a ton of great ideas here that I hadn't thought about.

I would love to do the pavers just because I think they would look fantastic on this house, and its a 4 bedroom 3 bathroom so we are going to market towards families with kids (given the area and the number of rooms). I feel like having something nice with this back yard may be the tipping point for a lot of families. With that said however the slabs are a bit uneven so that may not be the best option without demoing the cement first which I am hesitant to do since the slabs connect to the foundation of the house.

Keep any other ideas coming, this is great!!

Thanks!!


Real Estate Investor · Milwaukee, Wisconsin


Rent a saw from Homedepot for $45. Cut a straight line because of they way it is poured into the house. Then demo the rest and use the concrete as a step down or transition onto the new pavers. If you think it will sell the house, it is worth going over budget a little. Whats your ROI?


Real Estate Investor · Hoboken, New Jersey


Right now we are estimating between a 75%-85% return on cash. It is difficult to say if the backyard will definitely help sell the house or not.

The back yard can't be seen unless you go all the way through the house since its a row house... but like I said since its 4 bedrooms 3 bathrooms I anticipate a family buyer and having a nice area to play with the kids in the back can't hurt...

You do however make a good point. The extra money spent on doing the paving stones to make it pop could add quite a bit of value to the home in the end... I will have to do some more research and see what the comparables have (or don't have).

Thanks!!


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