NEW: BP Podcast 66: Flips, Apartments, & Protecting Yourself From Professional Tenants with Michael Blank

Hide this

From the BiggerPockets Blog

 BiggerPockets Blog »

Jump to Forum View All

Click a category below to view different forum categories.


General Info

BiggerPockets Q&A, Site Questions, & Announcements

1516 topics, 14408 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 07:47PM

BiggerPockets Exclusive PRO Area

117 topics, 839 posts — Last Post 04/18/14, 05:47AM

New Member Introductions

10896 topics, 85717 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 10:05PM

Real Estate Success Stories

396 topics, 6161 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 05:20PM

General Real Estate

General Real Estate

Buying & Selling Real Estate

5942 topics, 46823 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 10:27PM


643 topics, 5817 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 09:29AM

Get Foreclosure Help - Help Stop Foreclosure Forum

316 topics, 2557 posts — Last Post 04/16/14, 03:58AM

Home Owner Association (HOA) Issues & Problems Forum

237 topics, 1609 posts — Last Post 04/17/14, 08:53AM

Do it Yourself

655 topics, 6269 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 09:02PM

Reviews & Feedback

Real Estate Deal Analysis and Advice

3683 topics, 29527 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 09:57PM

Real Estate Guru, Book & Course Reviews and Discussions

1133 topics, 11562 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 12:17PM

Ask About A Real Estate Company

741 topics, 7323 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 10:36PM

Real Estate Investing

Real Estate Strategies


5605 topics, 43750 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 10:03PM

Rehabbing and House Flipping

3334 topics, 31004 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 06:45PM

Real Estate Development & New Home Construction

553 topics, 4685 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 06:13PM

Innovative Strategies

703 topics, 6027 posts — Last Post 04/18/14, 08:48AM

Tax Liens, Notes, Paper, & Cash Flows Discussion

866 topics, 6678 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 06:06AM

Rent to Own a.k.a. Lease Purchase, Lease Options

693 topics, 4902 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 04:53PM

1031 Exchanges

143 topics, 1054 posts — Last Post 04/18/14, 08:41AM

Foreclosure Investing

General Foreclosure & Pre-Foreclosure Forums

1687 topics, 11290 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 09:17PM

HUD, VA, and Tax Sales

415 topics, 3097 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 10:19PM


1214 topics, 10577 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 07:22PM

Short Sales

1534 topics, 13120 posts — Last Post 04/17/14, 04:44PM

Landlord & Tenant Forums

Landlord & Rental Property Questions

7207 topics, 70775 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 07:50PM

Mobile Homes & Mobile Home Park Investing

638 topics, 5141 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 09:49AM

Investor Basics

Starting Out

7706 topics, 60497 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 09:40PM

Investor Psychology

431 topics, 6104 posts — Last Post 04/18/14, 06:08PM

General Real Estate Investing

4718 topics, 37214 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 08:08PM

Real Estate Investor Marketing

1731 topics, 14094 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 06:39AM

Commercial Real Estate

Commercial Real Estate Investing Forum

1410 topics, 8994 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 04:34PM

Multi-Family and Apartment Investing

1109 topics, 9239 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 07:12PM

The Business of Real Estate

Real Estate Technology and the Internet

Real Estate Technology, Social Media & Blogging

641 topics, 4895 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 09:33PM

Business Basics

Goals, Business Plans & Entities

831 topics, 7562 posts — Last Post 04/18/14, 04:25PM

Real Estate Finance & Legal

Financial, Tax, and Legal

Tax, Legal Issues, Contracts, Self-Directed IRA

2786 topics, 20018 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 08:17PM

Property Insurance

309 topics, 2045 posts — Last Post 04/17/14, 07:41PM

Personal Finance Discussion

328 topics, 2732 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 06:57PM

Loans, Mortgages, Credit Lines

Private & Conventional Lending Discussion

2834 topics, 19702 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 06:39PM

Creative Real Estate Financing

1210 topics, 8771 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 08:28PM

Crowdfunding Real Estate

35 topics, 463 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 06:24PM

Real Estate Professionals

Real Estate Professionals

Real Estate Agents

1211 topics, 7995 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 08:09PM

Bankers, Lenders, and Mortgage Brokers

442 topics, 1924 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 07:27PM


269 topics, 1679 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 09:28PM

Local Real Estate

Local Real Estate

Local Real Estate Networking & Recommendations

1990 topics, 11614 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 07:40PM

Americans & International Real Estate

161 topics, 566 posts — Last Post 04/14/14, 11:19AM

Foreigners Buying in the USA

62 topics, 409 posts — Last Post 04/10/14, 06:27AM

Canadian Real Estate

64 topics, 428 posts — Last Post 04/18/14, 04:22AM


Real Estate Marketplace

Real Estate Marketplace

15020 topics, 53960 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 07:37PM

Real Estate Events and Happenings

164 topics, 2515 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 07:29PM


Off Topic


2905 topics, 32411 posts — Last Post 04/19/14, 08:03AM

Housing News & Real Estate Market

914 topics, 8351 posts — Last Post 04/17/14, 08:41AM

BiggerPockets Real Estate Investing Summit

97 topics, 1751 posts — Last Post 04/10/14, 02:27PM

BiggerPockets Resources

Forums » Rehabbing and House Flipping » Vendor never billed me for work done

Vendor never billed me for work done

13 posts by 8 users


· Orlando, Florida

I had extra insulation put in the attic of the rental house almost 2 months ago. It was about $500 worth of work. I there & ready to pay with a check at the end of the job but the workers said they didn't have a bill for me and that I would receive one in the mail. I waited a month and didn't receive a bill. I called their office and asked about it and I explained to them they need to send the bill to my address, not the rental house, etc. She told me she would send the invoice to me, she just needed to speak to someone else in her office first. Now another month has gone by and I still haven't received anything from them. Should I just forget about it?

Real Estate Investor · Ellicott City, Maryland

You've done as much as is reasonable so at this point you just need to cover your your butt in case of later repercussions and forget about it.

If this is a house you plan to hold, they may be able to put a lien against it if they ever realize you didn't pay. Now, in my state, they only have 90 days from work completion to file a lien for non-payment, so I'd forget about it in three months, but you should Check the rules in your state to be safe.

If there is any chance of a future lien, feel free to send an email or certified letter explaining the situation to the company so that you can later prove you tried to do the righht thing.

Small_lishproplogoJ Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
E-Mail: [email protected]
Telephone: 770-906-6358

· Orlando, Florida

I checked, it's 90 days here too.

Real Estate Investor · Ellicott City, Maryland

Originally posted by Bienes Raices:
I checked, it's 90 days here too.

Then I wouldn't worry about my opinion, by offering a check at job completion and then following-up with a phone call, you've satisfied your ethical obligation to make good on this.

Of course, if they catch their error down the road, they'll probably send you a bill, at which point you should pay it. If you're concerned about that, place the money aside for a year or so in case you need it to pay them. After a year, it's probably safe to say that they won't catch it...

Small_lishproplogoJ Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
E-Mail: [email protected]
Telephone: 770-906-6358

· Orlando, Florida

I decided to call them again & they said they would mail bill to me. I'm perfectly willing to pay it, & I would actually use these people again. Their prices were good. But next time I would have to nail them down on the bill immediately.

Banker · Tampa Area, Florida

i guess i'm not understanding why u are begging to pay people that obviously don't want to be paid?

Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania

I have a plumber who fixed the heating in one of my rentals in mid January (one of coldest days of the winter too) - he still has not billed me even though I have called and asked for the bill a couple of times. Same thing for a sink repair he did last year - it took a while to get the bill.

Now, why do you want to pay somebody who isn't sending you a bill? So that they come back, as in the case with my plumber. So that your reputation continues to be solid (you don't pay and it will get around among the various trades - they get together at job sites and the material suppliers). And when you remind them that they haven't been paid, they might actually tell nice things about you for being honorable.

Do the right thing, treat others as you wish to be treated ...

Steve Babiak, Redeeming Properties, LLC
Telephone: 6109082183

Banker · Tampa Area, Florida

there is a HUGE difference between not paying someone because they haven't billed you and not paying someone who has.

i think the poor business reputation is on the non-billing party.

the right thing is to run a business like a business and expect others to do the same.

Real Estate Investor · Phoenix, Arizona

Excellent points in this dialog. I thought I was one of those odd ducks that hounded vendors about the bills.

I agree that reminding them and waiting is the right thing to do. Good vendors are often behind on their billing. If it crosses year-end, create an accrual and that way the expense is in the right tax year.

FYI - one of my best AC vendors did not bill me for July work until January (his slow season) when I reminded him again. After paying promptly he now goes out of his way to waive down payments on jobs that are far bigger.

Integrity pays.

Real Estate Investor · Westerly, Rhode Island

Should we ignore our moral obligations because the contractor is ignoring us?

I doubt the contractor simply does not want to be paid.

This is the definition of integrity. (+1 Ron) Do the right thing even when you think nobody cares. Its tough to do I admit, but it makes us better for it.

Real Estate Investor · North Carolina

"Integrity pays".

I go after my 'mom and pop' vendors who, for whatever reason, haven't billed me in a timely fashion. I take care of them and guess what?.......

They take care of me (usually, or I go do business with their relatives -- ha ha welcome to a small town!....).

Real Estate Investor · Acworth, Georgia

Maybe send him the $500 check and put a note that you need the receipt. You did the right thing, and you can move on - the next time you need him for work, if he hasn't sent you the reciept he can bring it with him.
You can always put a note in your file with a copy of the check for your accountant.

· Orlando, Florida

I just received a phone call from them asking when I was going to pay? Then I explained that I had already called them multiple times. Then they read off the address to send bill to and it was still the rental house address instead of mine, even though I told them twice before to send it to me. WTF?

Sign up