Hey, what are some mistakes beginning investors tend to do while flipping REOs?
I don't have much experience so I will have to learn from others mistakes
Hey, what are some mistakes beginning investors tend to do while flipping REOs?
I don't have much experience so I will have to learn from others mistakes
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Of course you can say that just about any kind of flip.
using bad comps
- comparing HOA to non-HOA
- comparing 1950's house to 1990's house
- making major value per square footage adjustments
not accounting for or underestimating "junk fees" you pay:
- property tax
- 4 sets of utilities every month
- insurance
- usually buyer's closing costs
- home warranty (what a scam)
- hard money lender junk fees.. they usually charge over 1k plus the points they quote
- cleaning lady
over fixing or under fixing a house
- every market is different, but we don't do any landscaping - it doesn't pay in my market
- we usually put a/c in, as that does pay
- etc etc
- the house doesn't need to meet your standards to live, it just needs to be better then the competition
trusting an un-educated agent to list it
- you don't want to chase the market down
- have the agent attempt to "double-end" the sale
- be too picky
- be not picky enough
- mismanage the sale escrows (a bad agent can let an FHA loan take 90 days. a good agent can get it done in 30 days).
Steve has a nice list of mistakes that are commonly made, which shows you just how difficult the business can be. Of the ones listed so far, two in particular stand out to me.
1) Underestimating repair costs- this happens over and over and over again.
2) Over/Under fixing- it is very important to understand the market you are investing in and to work within that market, not outside of it.
Steve has a very solid list.
A couple to add:
-Not pulling permits
-Make renovations that appeal to the masses and not to your personal tastes
And the biggest (and probably most obvious) IMO:
-Overpaying for the property
Yea try to stay to properties that are around 50-65% ARV to make a profit on the flip
Anything higher will make it, down to the wire on your profits.
Also I would stay away from expensive flips. Unless you are very educated on them.
50% on the deal is pretty unrealistic (purchase price + repairs). Unless you deal at a very low price point. Out of 75+ deals I have only done in the last 2.5 years, I may have done 2 or 3 at 5x%.
My first deal I paid 78% (purchase price + repairs) and made a pretty healthy profit.
Agreed...and I deal in relatively low price points...
I often pick up properties for 30% ARV, but this is before repairs. After purchase + repairs, we're generally at 65-75% of ARV.
J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
Telephone: 770-906-6358
Website: http://www.123flip.com
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1. Overpaying for the property is by far #!.
2. Underestimating repair costs
3. Not figuring in holding costs
4. Not adding in contingency expenses
5. Not properly evaluating exit prices
6. trusting others to do your job
7. Not having a good rehab team
8. Not having good team members
9. Not using BP Nation resources
and
10. Not listening to the good advice of seasoned pros
Will Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
E-Mail: info@barnardenterprises.com
Website: http://www.barnardenterprises.com
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6. trusting others to do your job
This can apply to everything in this business! Never to allow someone else to substitute for your brain.
Buying outside of your geographic area is one I would like to add to the list.
Buying outside of your geographic area is one I would like to add to the list.
I disagree. I know a lot of people some here on BP that invest outside their own area that are successful.