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Forums » Tax Liens, Notes, Paper, & Cash Flows Discussion » How to get started making money in notes

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Real Estate Investor · Boston, Massachusetts


Does anyone have any experience with notes here? I'd really like to learn a bit more about how to make money with notes. Thanks everyone.


Real Estate Investor · Chicago, Illinois


Amy,

Notes can be very rewarding, but you must put some work into it. You will see a couple of infomercials that make it seem easy, Russ Dalby & American Cash Flow, while it isn't that difficult of a subject to get involved in, it is a business, and takes effort.

I have been involved for years in the note industry. It has its good days and bad.


Note Investor · Kalamazoo, Michigan


Read Everything that you can get your hands on with out paying to get involved in high priced seminars and sales pitches about how easy the note business is. Noteworthy has a lot of great information on the subject of how to broker notes and other cash flows and even offers a free class for new note brokers.
The note business is all about people and problem solving. If you like these and are a good negotiator you can do well. If you don't have a good understanding of mortgages, seller financed real estate transactions and the time value of money, you can start by reading up on these subjects on the net and in your local library for free!


Real Estate Investor · Colorado Springs, Colorado


Originally posted by Marc Faulkner
Noteworthy has a lot of great information on the subject of how to broker notes and other cash flows and even offers a free class for new note brokers.


Marc, what is "noteworthy"???

Note Investor · Kalamazoo, Michigan


Type it in to Google and you will see!


Hard Money Lender · Eagle Mountain, Utah


Noteworthyusa.com is the site and Marc is absolutely right. They have some of best information and are linked with the top individuals in the industry. There is no better place to learn about the note business and make contacts with those who will really help you make it work.


Private Money Lender · Orinda, California


My business revolves around notes. Do you have more specific questions?

Do you know how to protect yourself the right way if any notes were to default?

Ask me


Note Investor · Kalamazoo, Michigan


Quincy,
I am not sure what this has to do about the original question, "how to make money with notes", but, I'll bite! How do we protect ourselves right away in case of default?????


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


OK, Quincy, I'm asking. How do you protect yourself the right way if your notes default.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Private Money Lender · Orinda, California


Well making money with notes is pretty simple. You just sit there and collect checks, there is no hassle.

The actual work comes in protecting yourself from losing your investment. This is the most important part. Is all about the right set up so that you can recoup your investment.

Here's how I do it:

Make sure the underlying property is under a comfortable CLTV ratio. For my company, is 65%. This gives me a lot of leg room if the borrower defaults.

Stay away from owner occupied homes because of usury laws and other hiccups that you just don't want to deal with, there are way too many good deals out there for everyone so you don't have to mess with novice investors.

Keep your loan term short to reduce ill-liquidity.

Be the senior lien, only come in as a junior lien if you know what you're doing. If ever, the borrower were to default, you can initiate foreclosure as a strategy to recover your principal.

Make sure you record the deed with the county that the underlying property is in.

Check out the prelim, make sure that's ok. Have the borrower pay for title insurance. Get a recent appraisal.

Sometimes I even have the borrower personal guarantee the lien on top of the property.

Make sure you have the power of sale clause in your note and deed so that you can foreclose either with or without the court. Choosing to foreclose with our without the courts depends on the situation.

Depending on the nature of the note and deal, you will need to line yourself up with a notebuyer to cash you out as another exit strategy.

This is some of the basics. I hope this helps guys.

Back to the original question 'how to make money with notes?' There are PLENTY of ways. I just described the most basic one.

Did you guys know you could create a win-win-win situation and profit off mechanics lien that are in default?

http://www.dre.ca.gov/pdf_docs/re35.pdf

check here for more info


Private Money Lender · Orinda, California


Forgot to mention, the broker/HML who originate the deal is your ally, they know the rules, find one that you can trust, get references, ask good questions, and take him/her out to lunch. The broker/HML is part of your 1st line of defense.


Note Investor · Kalamazoo, Michigan


I agree Quincy, if you are going to buy notes for your own account, a good note broker is the best place to go!


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