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Real Estate Investor · Michigan


Hello all, I was looking for some advice or input on a RE transaction. I began buying SFRs and rehabbing them with the intent to hold them for a return (also, I always keep my options open). So far, so good. I have 5 under my belt and the renters are lining up, thankfully. On average, my final cost after acquisition and rehab is just under 20K per property (all appraise at 60 to 70K). I am collecting 800 to 900 monthly rent per property. Taxes and insurance range from 2,500 to 3,500 annually on each. The return is very good (25 to 30% ROI on each).
On one property, a prospective tenant wants to purchase it. We agreed on 55K purchase price, with 10% down. When I ran the numbers, however, on a 30 year note it does not look very good for me if I hold the note. Of course, there is the option of selling the note later on, but there is no guarantee. Renting it out would be a much better return for me.
Then I re-ran the numbers based on a 15 year note at 9%. I proposed this to the tenant and he was quite pleased (even at a 15 year amortization, his PITI would still be lower than the 850 rent). The monthly payment on the note is a little less than what I would net if I rented it, but not by much.
But is my return now 9% (the finance rate)? If not, how do I calculate the ROI? If this works out, I would be in a position where I probably would not want to sell the note. Any insight or advice? What are the perils of seller financing? Part of the requirement for financing (assuming it is allowable) is that I draw the payment directly from the buyer's bank account every month (spoke with the branch manager at my bank and she told me that we can do this at no cost).

Thanks,

Ali


· Loveland, CO


Big taxes and insurance tab like that sounds like Texas! I've been doing what you describe exclusively for about 15 years now, plus I seller financed all 16 of my rentals when I was tired of landlording.

Problem 1 with doing this is your RENT INCREASES stop! You can't go back a year later and raise their interest rate.

Problem 2 is sometimes they come back, I've got a couple threads on here about the last one I got back 6 weeks ago, also about one that I may get back soon. My problem is that I moved 950 miles away from my former "farm".

I calculate my return on HOW MUCH I'VE GOT INVESTED. If I pay $20K and sell it for $30 @ 9% my return is probably about 14% or so, I like it!

I've sold about 50 or so this way and gotten 5 back. Although two of them I got back twice so it may have been more the house than the buyers.

BTW, anyone that can come up with 10% down could go get bank financing in almost any case. I run an ad that says %3K down (up to $100K sales price) so I know there's some risk. Still every time I get one back I make a good bit more on the turnover.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Frank


Real Estate Investor · Las Vegas, NV - LAS, Nevada


My father and I sold 2 properties on notes back a few years. It worked out well over all. We didnt take either back and were paid off on 1 in about 6 years. The problem that I see is that we are living in a very inflation prone environment. Your note is not a hedge against this inflation at all. If some people are right double digit inflation is on the way. This would negate your 9% interest. Every year your money is worth less in this form. The dollar is a currency and therfore losing purchase power is inevitable. Holding as a house would be a hedge. My advice is to take the note and keep an eye on inflation, if you see inflation gearing up, sell the note and move it into any hard asset as a hedge. Also, talk to a note buyer to make sure that you structure your note so that it is readily sellable and you arent stuck with it.


Real Estate Investor · Central, New Jersey


How about seller financing from the position of the buyer? What are the pluses and negatives?

Brian


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Seller financing for the buyer means no bank qualifying and easy availability to purchase. On the negative side, it means probably paying a higher interest rate. The positives outweigh the negatives in my opinion.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Real Estate Investor · Central, New Jersey


Thanks, Will.

Brian




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