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How do you get started in wholesaling? My credit isn't the best. I am in the process of repairing and that will take at least 18 months. But i do not want to wait that long. How can I find the financing available to acquire all these great deals in my area in order to wholesale it.


Real Estate Investor · Portland, Oregon


I would suggest that you read all of the posts in the wholesale forum... It seems like you may not quite fully understand the idea of wholesaling...

When you wholesale, generally what is done is you would locate and obtain an accepted offer on a house that is a deal...

Then, for and assignment fee, sells or assigns that contract to another party that will buy the property.

With this being the case, your credit or ability to get a loan does not come into play, as you will not need a loan.

This is one reason why some people start in wholesaling... It takes almost no money, and no loan... Just some time and the ability to find great deals, and to get an offer accepted.

Good Luck!



Well that sounds like a better way for me to get into RE investing to get my feet wet. I will read the post again in this section. I guess I really misunderstood about wholesaling.
So, pretty much I just find the deals and make an offer then find someone who wants to but it from me?



Hey Ren,
What part of country are you in?


· Raleigh, NC


Originally posted by "EricFoster"
I would suggest that you read all of the posts in the wholesale forum... It seems like you may not quite fully understand the idea of wholesaling...

When you wholesale, generally what is done is you would locate and obtain an accepted offer on a house that is a deal...

Then, for and assignment fee, sells or assigns that contract to another party that will buy the property.

With this being the case, your credit or ability to get a loan does not come into play, as you will not need a loan.

This is one reason why some people start in wholesaling... It takes almost no money, and no loan... Just some time and the ability to find great deals, and to get an offer accepted.

Good Luck!

I'm still a little confused on what exactly a wholesaler does.

1.) Find Deals on homes

2.) Gets deal to buyer for a fee.

How is this any different from Bird-dogging?

<-----newb


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


When you wholesale a property, you actually have a contract. You either double close on the property, or assign the purchase contract. When bird-dogging, you find deals and then hand them over. You're not actually a principal to the transaction.

Jon

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Portland, Oregon


Wholesale...
You find the " deal" , get it under contract, and then assign it to a buyer.

Bird-Dog...
You find a " lead" , and pass it to someone who will try to make it a " deal" .

It is generating a " Lead" ... (Someone who may sell)
Vs.
Generating a " Deal" (Someone who has signed an agreement to sell)


Real Estate Investor · Haiti and, NY


In your hometown join your local REI club and network. I truly believe wholesaling you have to be a people person or just down right " motivated" to build client list first and then start searching for homes.

Also, by joining a club, you get to meet other wholesalers exchanging of information or form a team.

Create list through email and take pictures of properties and short info and blast the info to your clients.

Don't forget BUSINESS CARDSSSSSSSSSSSSS



I now have a better understanding of wholesaling. Thank you everyone for the input. I do however have a few questions:

They may seem like strange questions but they came to me while reading. Hope someone can answer them for me.

1) How do you get the buyer to do an assignment contract and pay you the difference? Would the buyer know that he is paying a few thousand over what they could have saved?

2)Do wholesaler go to closings?

3)If i am wholesaling a deal to someone whom I suspect is doing the same thing, will the deal work in the end?

4) When do you get paid on the deal? (It seem before closing on an assignment contract deal but I want to be certain.)

5)At the closing won't it be odd that a different person will be there? When the seller realizes that that's not the person he made the deal/contract with?


Wholesaler · Amarillo, Texas


First, I would HIGHLY recommend that you read through the archives in the Wholesaling forum.

As for your questions,

1) Remember that price overcomes all objections.

If you are selling the property where the buyer can profit $15,000 would they be willing to pay you $5,000? Would you pay $5,000 to make $15,000? I know I would, and any investor in their right mind would too. Now that doesn't mean they won't try to negotiate with you, but they'd be a fool to walk away from a REAL deal just because you are making a profit on it. Keep in mind you will meet some fools.

Remember that the buyer wouldn't have saved thousands of dollars, they would have never known about the deal.

Now part of this whole issue is why I prefer to double close. On a double closing the buyer and seller don't know what you're selling it for or normally that you are even reselling it.

2) On an assignment, you just pick up a check. On a double closing, yes, you would go to the closing.

3) Yes the deal can work, but it has more risk of falling apart. In a situation like this, I make sure that my buyer understands that I fully expect him to close either way. I also have at least $1,000 earnest money from the buyer, so if the deal falls through I keep it.

4) On an assignment, normally you would want to get some or all of the assignment upfront. The balance, if any. would be paid at closing. On a double closing, other than your earnest money you would get paid at closing.

5) On an assignment, normally I will prep the seller that someone else might be buying the property, but I always reaffirm that the seller has nothing to worry about whether my buyer buys it or not because I will either way. Normally, the seller is not going to care. They just want to get their money.

The different parties to the transaction normally sign at different times, so it really is not a big issue that they will see someone else at the closing. Now if its an assignment they may notice a different name on the HUD 1 closing statement and the assignment fee will be on there also. So that may come up as an issue. Some title agents will prepare a one sided HUD 1 that doesn't show the buyers side to the seller and the sellers side to the buyer. Either way the contract is still legal and binding, and the seller has a legal requirement to sell the property under that contract whether you assigned it or not.

Again a double closing insulates this information from the buyer and the seller.



Assignment works better for me because my credit is not good and financing will be a problem.


Real Estate Investor · Portland, Oregon


Originally posted by "Ren"
Assignment works better for me because my credit is not good and financing will be a problem.

Just to clarify for you...

On an " assignment" or a " double close" ... you do not need a loan in either case.


Real Estate Investor · Reading, Pennsylvania


Eric,
On an assignment you do not need money. On a double close you will need the appropriate costs to cover any title costs, notary and transfer costs. Talk with your title company that you are using. It may differ from company to company and is different even from state to state.

rdinvestors


Wholesaler · Amarillo, Texas


I've never heard of paying for closing costs out of pocket on a double closing. The thing is that the title company is about to write you a check for your profits, and it would seem very odd why they wouldn't just take it out of your profits. Doesn't seem to make any logical sense why any title company would do that. Its more paperwork and tracking for the title company.

I've done about 40 or 50 double closings, and I have never had to pay out a dime out of pocket.



Can you give me a few details on how I can accomplish a double closing without needing financing? What step would I follow to accomplish that? I'm in NY.


Wholesaler · Amarillo, Texas


Ren, I would recommend you take some time and go through the Wholesaling Forum archives. A lot of the gaps will fill in for you just looking at some of the past posts.


Real Estate Investor · AL


Originally posted by "Ryan_Webber"
I've never heard of paying for closing costs out of pocket on a double closing. The thing is that the title company is about to write you a check for your profits, and it would seem very odd why they wouldn't just take it out of your profits. Doesn't seem to make any logical sense why any title company would do that. Its more paperwork and tracking for the title company.

I've done about 40 or 50 double closings, and I have never had to pay out a dime out of pocket.

Is there a way to do a deal with the end buyer paying the closing costs?

PS I found found a post about an hour or so after I asked that question, and ExpertHomeOffer addressed it.

http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=14391


Real Estate Investor · edmonton, Alberta


google searches for me are one of the best ways to find information, a good website is http://awaytogrow1.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/doublecloseorassign/
hope that helps



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Originally posted by "Thunderstruck"

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