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Wholesaler · Portsmouth, Ohio


Hello Everybody,

Not sure where to post this, sorry if in wrong forum...

I recently started a topic (I Took Action) in the Starting Out forum about me putting up bandit signs. I have received 4 calls already 3 of them were tire kickers, but one call I received today caught me off guard. The message was from a woman wanting to buy a house, my bandit signs say " I BUY HOUSES" not houses for sale so I thought she could be a landlord or flipper. I called her and starting asking her questions from a buyers question sheet I had put together, she informs me that she has already found a property she wants to buy and wants my help to buy it...WHAT???

She tells me that the property is a FSBO and that they are getting a great deal on the property and wanted to know If I could help her and her husband buy it. She informs me that the property is worth $110K FMV but the people selling it need to sell in a hurry and are willing to let it go for $60K. They need time to get financing together and wanted to know If I or someone I know could buy the property and seller finance it to them for 18 - 24 mos until the get there financing in order to cash out the investor.

I told her that private money is cost more $$$ than bank $$$ and she seemed to understand that, so I said that I wouldn't make her any promises but I would ask around and see if this is possible and I would call her back either way if I could or could not help her.

Has anyone ever had such a call??

Can Anyone do this????

If so I'm in the local area of the house so any info you would need I would be able to get you the info.

Do you guys think I should leave this alone because I'm no loan broker, or get info from the people that are selling the property and see what there story is...I need advice.

Thanks,

Alex

Alex Hart, Hart Management Group LLC
Telephone: 740-370-4441
alexhart.hmg@gmail.com


Real Estate Investor · Georgia


I'd check the deal out. May be some kind of off-the-radar deal.

And remember, while it is important to properly qualify any lead based upon your investing criteria, you should put all of your "tire kickers" on file. You never know when that old tire kicker might become part of a transaction.


Wholesaler · Portsmouth, Ohio


Michael,

Once I got off the phone with her I had a bunch of questions I should have asked, so I made sure to write them down and when I talk to her tomorrow I'll be able to see if my idea will work. I don't have $60K to buy the property for them but thought someone here might be interested.

My idea is to see if the sellers need cash now or are they in a position to finance it them selves. If so maybe I can get the sellers to sell on a lease option to the lady that called me and I can get paid a consultant fee as in ( option consideration money) and make it a win, win for everybody.

What do you think?

One problem though, I have no experience doing options. Sorry I know this is in the wholesaling forum.

Thanks,

Alex

Alex Hart, Hart Management Group LLC
Telephone: 740-370-4441
alexhart.hmg@gmail.com


Real Estate Coach · San Antonio, Texas


I know it is hard to think on your feet when you get those types of calls you are not expecting. You will get better and knowing what you need to ask when you get more comfortable talking on the phone and when you get more sure of yourself. Remember, the people calling are just that, people and they don't know more than you do, that is why they are calling you. Keep this in mind and it will become easier to talk on the phone.

You have a good idea and it is certainly worth checking out, but I would bet if the sellers are so willing to give a 50% discount they are probably in need of cash yesterday.

One thing you need to ask the person that called you, what can they afford in monthly payments. That answer will give you an opportunity to work it backwards and see if there is any spread between a the payment + private money interest.

Good luck.

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Residential Real Estate Agent · Rockville, Maryland


It's definitely harder to think on your feet with a call like, this but I would first of all make sure this is not a scam and someone trying to sell you a lemon. Check the property condition and also definitely make sure the numbers are what she says. Good luck.


Rehabber · El Paso, Texas


Pitch the deal to a hard money lender. The numbers work, so as long as the income is there it shouldn't be a problem. You'll usually be compensated a couple points.


Wholesaler · Portsmouth, Ohio


Thanks for the help,

I will call her later today and ask some questions that will shed some more light on the situation. From what I was told the house is in great shape ( will see) and the woman who called me is wanting to buy the house as her and her husbands retirement home. I was thinking that if the sellers need some cash, I need to find out how much because the buyers might have a nice size down payment or ( option consideration) money to help them out with there situation.

How would I go about pitching this to a hard money lender?
What info do they need to make a decision?

Anyone know a hard money lender that might be of assistance...? I have yet to meet a hard lender.

Thanks guys, I look forward to your reply.

Alex

Alex Hart, Hart Management Group LLC
Telephone: 740-370-4441
alexhart.hmg@gmail.com


Real Estate Investor · ten mile, Tennessee


Hard money lenders are usually short term loans and will not fit into the time requirements listed previously.

It would be better to search in the Private money lenders arena or maybe Angel lenders.


Real Estate Investor


Alex
Protect yourself. Sounds like you won't be a pricipal in this transaction and are expecting compensation. Make sure you don't provide "services" that require licensing in OH. Also, keep in mind your personal liability if things go whacko and someone ends up unhappy.


Real Estate Investor · Georgia


Alex, I think that the other posters have laid out the various approaches.

Remember...keep your hands clean at all costs. No amount of money is worth getting involved in something that could result in hackles getting raised and resulting in bad press or legal action. Don't let greed be your motivator. By the same token, don't "over help" because you are trying to be a benevolent person.People who don't do what we do don't understand the unspoken codes that we live by and if you piss them off, they'll see you as an enemy and start gunning for you. (The road to hell is paved with good intentions.)

Size up the deal. If it is really tricky, call one of the old pros down at your local REIA....the guy that has been investing since mankind resided in caves and teepees. A lot of times, these people will dispense advice for nothing and may even jump in and put a deal together that allows you to fade into the background...and break you off a fee...under a "gentleman's agreement." This is really the lowest risk play and one that I use to this day. The old pros know how the game is played and how to take control and keep their mouths shut.

I just "did" a deal in such a way.


Wholesaler · Portsmouth, Ohio


Hey Guys,

I think I'm going to just let this go, I will just tell her that I'm unable to help her out. This seems to be over my head at this point plus I do not want to get caught in the middle of a deal gone bad. I would like to get the number for the sellers and see if I could either wholesale the house or buy it on terms with lease option or a sub 2 only and if only everything checks out.

Do you guys think that it would be a bad move on my part to try and get the phone number for the sellers and call them to make a deal?

I have not been able to locate a local REIA club, I have searched online and even asked around and people look at me like what are you talking about.

Anyways thanks for the advice,

Alex

Alex Hart, Hart Management Group LLC
Telephone: 740-370-4441
alexhart.hmg@gmail.com


Real Estate Investor


Alex
Think about bird dogging it to another wholesaler. Smaller paycheck, but much safer.


Real Estate Investor · cincinnati, Ohio


I would definitely try to reach the seller..the buyer has no chance and sounds like the seller is very motivated. Is this deal in Pourtsmouth I take it..if it were a little closer to Cincy I may be willing to partner with you.

Good Luck!
steve


Wholesaler · Portsmouth, Ohio


Steve,

I just got off the phone with the woman and she said they might have found some financing from a relative. So, I didn't get a chance to get the sellers phone number. I would have liked to have talked to the sellers , but on to the next one.

I see you do REO's, is that the only form of investing you do?

Thanks for your time,

Alex

Alex Hart, Hart Management Group LLC
Telephone: 740-370-4441
alexhart.hmg@gmail.com



this deal is a LONG way from being closed. Stay on it,you still may find a way. Surely you asked the address in the first question of the phone call?? Then you have sellers names etc. Even aprox. area should give you good clue,,,otherwise call them back and ask. What do you have to lose?? sounds like a red hot seller to me!!


Real Estate Investor · cincinnati, Ohio


Reo and non performing notes Alex


Real Estate Investor · cincinnati, Ohio


Originally posted by Alex Hart
Steve,

I just got off the phone with the woman and she said they might have found some financing from a relative. So, I didn't get a chance to get the sellers phone number. I would have liked to have talked to the sellers , but on to the next one.

I see you do REO's, is that the only form of investing you do?


Thanks for your time,

Alex





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