I'm a first time investor and my tenant just paid his first months rent. Typically how much do you set aside for Taxes?
Any suggestions so I don't make a rookie mistake?
I'm a first time investor and my tenant just paid his first months rent. Typically how much do you set aside for Taxes?
Any suggestions so I don't make a rookie mistake?
Taxes should be zero or at least small, thanks to depreciation. Just be sure you have a few grand as your cash reserve account and you should have taxes, if any, covered.
thanks Jon; but, aren't taxes based on income? If I am netting $300 a month after expenses on my rental property woudln't that be considered income?
I'm sure I'd benefit from talking to a CPA or tax attorney; but, I paid cash for the property -- so the majority of the rent comes back to my pocket instead of paying off a loan.
Without a loan, you could well have taxable income. However, you still have depreciation. Depreciation is based on the value of the improvements. That's the structures, but not the land. A rule of thumb is 80% of the value is the improvements, 20% is the land. You should really evaluate it, and get a better number for your properties.
You "depreciate" the improvements over 27.5 years. Without knowing what its worth, I'll use $100K for an example. Property's worth $100k, improvements are $80K. That makes depreciation $2909 a year or $242 a month. Assuming your expenses are actuals (vs. the "50% rule" estimate), and $300 is your actual cash flow, your taxable income would be $58 a month.
If your actuals are just taxes, insurance, and a few minor fixups, you'll at some point have a bigger expense. Maybe a month long vacancy while you get a new tenant or a larger repair. If so, you'll wipe out that remaining taxable income. Be sure to consider all your other expenses like a receipt book and mileage to the property.
If you really do have the $58 a month in taxable income, that gets taxed at your marginal rate. Assuming that's the worst case of 35%, you'd have a $20 tax bill each month.
I wouldn't recommend seeking your tax advice from a real estate forum. I suggest you seek this type of advice from a reputable tax adviser that specializes in Real Estate Taxes. Remember, the most expensive advice is "Free" advise.
Absolutely. I gave up doing my own taxes several years ago, before starting to invest in real estate. Took a couple of tries to find a good CPA, but he saves me much more than he charges. I know people use Turbo Tax or similar products for rental property. But, IMHO, that's penny wise and pound foolish.
Completely agree with Jose and Jon. Find a good CPA, and you'll end up making money (i.e., he'll save you more than he costs)...
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"Any suggestions so I don't make a rookie mistake?"
Use a professional - yes
Expect them to do everything for you - no
My advice: Landlord/Property Manager should be diligent in tracking all income/expenses for the property using software/spreadsheets, make it easier for the tax pro to help you. Don't wait until tax season.
Jeff,
I think you received some good replies. My additional information is that the date the property is available for rent is an important date to document. If you advertised for a few months before you rented, save the documentation of the date advertised. You can start deducting expenses, like maintenance, utilities and depreciation on that date before you get rental income.
I could send you a more information if you wish to PM me and start an e-mail conversation.
Sheldon
Jon, I know you have "all" the experience.
I have one property that is being rented by some peopls whose house was in/on fire...I'm getting paid by the insurance... they had me fill in a W-9...what does that mean as far as taxes. do I have to pay taxes on the entire amount that the insurance co. gives me?
I'm not a CPA and you should use one to do RE taxes. I don't think this has any effect at all on your taxes. They're just needing to report who they paid it to. It doesn't affect you. You always REPORT all the income you received on a rental property. You also report all the expenses, interest payments and depreciation and use that to arrive at your taxable income. Then, you pay tax on the taxable income. You never pay tax on gross revenue (i.e., what the insurance company or anyone else pays you.)