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Should I allow this from a prospective tenant

Brandon Malone
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Posted Mar 19 2024, 15:12

I recently listed a property for rent. An agent that recently showed the property reached to stating that their client love the property but would like to know if the landlord would be okay with installing a gas line or gas stove either at their cost or landlord cost. At their cost, meaning they are willing to pay to have this done. Curious to know how you would handle this situation. Appreciate some feedback.

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 15:42

I would rent to a good resident that was fine with the existing set up (particularly in a blue state).

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 16:15

That could be expensive , if you are tying in to natural gas at the street , 5 grand and up . more if they have to cross the road .  Now if its propane , the install will be cheaper , but propane is expensive and the companies can be hard to deal with 

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 16:33

@Matthew Paul The property already has a gas line to the house. It's mainly used for heating and the fireplace. This would be to run it to where the stove is. 

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 16:34

@Mike Dymski - That's why I pose the question here. What else would they have issues with if they were moving in.Will they become nightmare demanding tenants?

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 17:19
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@Mike Dymski - That's why I pose the question here. What else would they have issues with if they were moving in.Will they become nightmare demanding tenants?


It's extra work, with no benefit to you...and possible issues going forward with more expense to replace and a movement away from anything gas, particularly in blue states.  Those are the primary issues rather than tenant demands.

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ModeratorReplied Mar 19 2024, 17:29

We generally don't negotiate on things like that with tenants (although, of course, we fix things that aren't working). From what I've seen, people tend to like electric stoves a bit more than gas so I wouldn't want to make this switch. I would say no. 

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ModeratorReplied Mar 19 2024, 17:31
Quote from @Brandon Malone:

I recently listed a property for rent. An agent that recently showed the property reached to stating that their client love the property but would like to know if the landlord would be okay with installing a gas line or gas stove either at their cost or landlord cost. At their cost, meaning they are willing to pay to have this done. Curious to know how you would handle this situation. Appreciate some feedback.


 Hey....I live in Gaithersburg too.

and no, I would not install a gas line for a tenant even if they were paying.

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 17:55
Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

We generally don't negotiate on things like that with tenants (although, of course, we fix things that aren't working). From what I've seen, people tend to like electric stoves a bit more than gas so I wouldn't want to make this switch. I would say no. 


 I find it the opposite .   Most people I know love the gas  stoves

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 18:01
Quote from @Matthew Paul:
Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

We generally don't negotiate on things like that with tenants (although, of course, we fix things that aren't working). From what I've seen, people tend to like electric stoves a bit more than gas so I wouldn't want to make this switch. I would say no. 


 I find it the opposite .   Most people I know love the gas  stoves

The unit cooks with Electric- - take it or leave it.

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 18:03
Quote from @Brandon Malone:

I recently listed a property for rent. An agent that recently showed the property reached to stating that their client love the property but would like to know if the landlord would be okay with installing a gas line or gas stove either at their cost or landlord cost. At their cost, meaning they are willing to pay to have this done. Curious to know how you would handle this situation. Appreciate some feedback.

Sure why not, most like gas, so they are doing you a favor, 

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 18:53

Thank you all for the responses. I was tempted to allow it at their cost as long as I could verify and approve the company doing the work. However, ultimately I decided to go against this as it may set a precedent for them to continue to ask for more and more modifications. 

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Replied Mar 19 2024, 18:58
Quote from @Brandon Malone:

I recently listed a property for rent. An agent that recently showed the property reached to stating that their client love the property but would like to know if the landlord would be okay with installing a gas line or gas stove either at their cost or landlord cost. At their cost, meaning they are willing to pay to have this done. Curious to know how you would handle this situation. Appreciate some feedback.

I had a tenant, ironically also in Gaithersburg (hope it’s not the same person because she was a pain in the *** lol) but she wanted a new carpet we paid half, she paid her half via us uppping the rent $50 over what it otherwise would have been, so that’s always a creative option, however I wouldn’t want gas at my property if I could avoid it, always a risk of a leak or worse so I’d probably lean towards saying no to this specific request.
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ModeratorReplied Mar 20 2024, 07:28
Quote from @Matthew Paul:
Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

We generally don't negotiate on things like that with tenants (although, of course, we fix things that aren't working). From what I've seen, people tend to like electric stoves a bit more than gas so I wouldn't want to make this switch. I would say no. 


 I find it the opposite .   Most people I know love the gas  stoves

I guess we run in different circles. Although, I should note, it's close from what I hear but also I don't think I've ever come across someone who loves either. (BBQ grills regarding charcoal or propane is a very different story though.)

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ModeratorReplied Mar 20 2024, 07:29
Quote from @Scott Mac:
Quote from @Matthew Paul:
Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

We generally don't negotiate on things like that with tenants (although, of course, we fix things that aren't working). From what I've seen, people tend to like electric stoves a bit more than gas so I wouldn't want to make this switch. I would say no. 


 I find it the opposite .   Most people I know love the gas  stoves

The unit cooks with Electric- - take it or leave it.

 Amen

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Replied Mar 20 2024, 08:20

Is this the only prospective tenant you've had while listing the unit for a while? Otherwise, I would have to say just say no and move on and wait for another applicant to come along. 

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Replied Mar 20 2024, 11:30
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However, ultimately I decided to go against this as it may set a precedent for them to continue to ask for more and more modifications. 

 ... at their cost. The horror!!! Next thing you know, they'll want to upgrade something else at their expense. Before you know it, the unit will be just like they want it, with upgrades at no cost to you, and they'll never want to move. You'll be stuck with a renter that wants to renew their lease. 

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Replied Mar 20 2024, 11:35
Quote from @Brandon Malone:

I recently listed a property for rent. An agent that recently showed the property reached to stating that their client love the property but would like to know if the landlord would be okay with installing a gas line or gas stove either at their cost or landlord cost. At their cost, meaning they are willing to pay to have this done. Curious to know how you would handle this situation. Appreciate some feedback.

Of course you allow it, 

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Replied Mar 20 2024, 13:36

There ya go...the best choice is as clear as mud :)....... 50% NO and 50% YES.....

Personal choice....... my choice would probably be NO. Although this is a "tenant will pay for it" - this time, this sets the precedent for other changes that they may want in the future. If I ever let a tenant make a change at their cost (very rare that I do), its made perfectly clear that they will not be reimbursed for it EVER. Lots of tenants will try to use it as leverage at a later date....when they leave and you dont give the full deposit back.....when they are late on a payment..... when they screw something up and you make them pay for the repair.  "Remember when I did XYZ and paid for it myself?"......Just not worth it.

I rent my place "as is".... you want something different? Find some place else.... I may accommodate a long term good tenant down the line.....but not on day 0...

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Replied Mar 20 2024, 14:11

@Brandon Malone Our insurance company frowns upon any tenant controlled gas in the units. Especially cooking stoves. This would be a big no unless it was a luxury home.

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Replied Mar 20 2024, 19:27

@Brandon Malone the only reason to consider a tenant proposed upgrade is if you were planning to do it at some point anyway (and I am saying consider, not necessarily approve)

This isn't something I would do unless of course it is a high end property and there is essentially a chefs kitchen where the expectation would be a gas range. I don't think that is your case.