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Real Estate Consultant · NY, New York


I need a little assistance with doing some deal analysis on some properties that I am looking to wholesale. I know how to arrive at the price I should purchase the property for but I am having an issue calculating what the ARV is going to be so I can set an attractive selling price to get the property sold quickly.

Should I base the ARV soley on the price of other properties sold in the area within the last 6 months?

Should I be looking at square footage, etc?

Is Zillow a good measure for the value?

Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated!


Real Estate Lender · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


Don't use zillow to measure value.

How are you coming up with the price you should contract the property for if you don't know the ARV of the property?


Real Estate Consultant · NY, New York


James I have been using values of properties recently sold in the area then deducting the repair cost and keeping my max price in mind during negotiations. Due to the fact my market has so many short sales and forclosures the sold prices tend to have a huge variances which is why i posed the question of what I can use or what do the experienced investors use to arrive at the ARV to make sure I'm not setting myself up for a hugh headache!


Wholesaler · Memphis, Tennessee


Andre,

You are very risky. When we buy homes we always know what the ARV and the renovations are first even before we make an offer.

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Real Estate Consultant · NY, New York


Well Curt the reason why I posted the question was because I realized that i was in a risky position, and as I stated before these were deals I was looking into not bought. I was looking for some advice as to how I can do this right.


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Andre, I would use the sales price that houses have actually sold for on the retail level. You have a hope to sell for close to that, although it will sell faster if you are a little lower in price,

Yes, you have to consider square footage. That is part of comps. If yours is smaller, then it is worth less, If it's bigger, its either worth more, or it's over-built for the neighborhood.

If there are a lot of foreclosures selling for cheap, make some allowance for that. Those bring down the ARV pretty quick, if there are too many of them. Also, end buyers tend to see the offering prices for those and it changes their expectations.

But if houses have actually sold and closed escrow at a price, then that is the price for the area.

A caveat here: if you are looking back 6 months, you are looking at summer prices. It's now going into winter. Sales slow down. Prices generally go down a bit and then back up in spring. How confident are you in your local market?

Winter is a great time to buy. There are fewer buyers, sellers are eager to sell, and you have time to fix 'er up nice and to be ready for the spring sales season.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but success in real estate isn't all due to skill with a balance sheet. At the very end, some of it is art and the good luck to be a good guesser.


Real Estate Consultant · NY, New York


P NW, thank you soooo much for the advice! I know the areas I am looking in extremely well because I have done loans there when I did mortgage finacing and they are all in my back yard so to speak. This wholesale side is new to me but through my resources I can get deals done as long as I am using the right calculations which is why I want to get the basics down before I pull the trigger.

And I completely agree that the RE business is not always about putting together the spreadsheets which is a lesson I am in the midst of learning now.

Keep the advice coming guys! :-)


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