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Real Estate Investor · Killeen, Texas


Hello BP ,

My name is Carlos and I was just looking for some direction and advice! Ok here is the deal, i've have been working with a realtor on a short sale for about about 6 months now ... the property is a condo and the bank wanted 305k at first but i guess after the talks they seem to want to agree on 288k the ARV is at $331,360 and may need about 5k in work!

I'm a newbie and flat broke not sure how to handle this situation! the owner of the property would be willing to rent the property back for a year if i did a buy and hold... the property is in southern California....i guess what I'm asking is if I was a seasoned investor how would they handle this or what numbers would i need to get to make this a decent deal???? My realtor just called me today and is asking how do i want to move forward with this property!!!

Thanks Carlos :roll:


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


First, the bank that approves the short sale will prohibit you from renting it back to the current owner.

$288K+$5K for a $331K fix and flip is too much, even for CA. That's 89% of ARV and there's no way to make any money after paying all the costs on the purchase and sale.

If you're flat broke you're going to have a hard time getting an investment loan.

You need a LOT of rent to make this worthwhile as a buy and hold. Something like $4000-5000 a month.

Its way to thin of a deal for most investors, so I don't see you being able to wholesale it. This is effectively a retail sale. Now sure why you're even involved.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Killeen, Texas


Well the way involved was just trying to take some action and see if i could get a good discount on a short sale and maybe flip to another investor if the numbers were right......Thanks for the advice i also think the realtor was trying to use me as the middle man to prolong the foreclosure too!!!


Wholesaler · Valley City, Ohio


Carlos,
Congrats on working on a deal! Some folks are too afraid to pull the trigger on anything at all, so at least you are trying.
With that said, I completely agree with Jon. that is a retail deal at best. First, If you are looking to close on something, you should be all in fixed up at no more than 70% LTV. Next, selling the property back to the original owners is not usually the best idea for many reasons. Finally, Condos are tough re sales and you have HOA's to deal with. Many times there are restrictions on renting them out.
Keep looking, and run from this deal FAST! :mrgreen:

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Real Estate Investor · Killeen, Texas


@Rob...lol will do! As an example can you show me what the should look like??? if possible ....


Wholesaler · Valley City, Ohio


Because I am not a math wizard, I will use simple numbers.
1. Find a single family house that is worth 100k
2. buy it for around 50k
3. sell it on rent to own to someone that can finance out in the next 12-36 months
4. They will need to put money down that is not refundable. give them a small portion of credit from the rent toward the purchase price if they pay on time.
5. the sales price should be the full 100k

Very basic, lots of details left out, but it is a basic outline. just make sure low LTV, single family homes, and tenant buyers that have light at the end of the tunnel.

Small_logo_largeRob Gillespie, Rob The House Guy, LLC
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Real Estate Investor · Killeen, Texas


thanks again!!!




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