Beginners Guide To Wholesaling: Killer Exit Strategies pt.1

Beginners Guide To Wholesaling: Killer Exit Strategies pt.1

Real Estate Coach · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2008 · 204 posts · 188 votes

I'm sitting here at the Honda dealership waiting for the oil to get changed in my wife's minvan and I decided intead of reading the latest issue of USA today...I would do something that will help you make money....

I've only got about 45 minutes but here go's....These some of my most often used Wholesaling exit strategies.

Straight Assignment
This is the traditional method of doing wholesale deals. As a percentage, I use this method about 40% of the time and you too, can make a killing simply using this tactic exclusively, however why would you want to limit yourself?

Build Buyers list ==> Find homes ==> Put under contract (and/or assignees) ==> Assign Contract

Pocket LLC Method
This profit tactic is best used when dealing with non-assignable REO's....The reason this works so well is that instead of assigning a contract and getting paid as you normally wouldâ€"You're going to get your assignment fee when you sell your llc.

Since the bank won't know who owns the llc when you've put the home under contract, you can just sell the llc and they won't know that anything has occurred.

I would recommend setting up 3 or 4 llc's after you've done a couple deals. The reason I recommend doing this AFTER you've done a couple of deals is because many of the rookies that I've trained end up putting to many obstacles between getting started and their first deal. I call this “Getting ready to get ready†or “Preparing to prepareâ€

Build Buyers list ==> Find homes ==> Put under contract (Using Pocket llc) ==> Sell llc

Double Closing (Simultaneous Closing)
This profit tactic has received a ton of bad press but I still use it all the time. I like using this tactic when I have a greedy cash buyer on the other end of a sale. Greedy cash buyers will often have a meltdown if they think that you are making too much money. As you'll soon see, this profit tactic eliminates the chance of a greedy buyer knowing what you've paid for a property because they NEVER see the original contract.

Besides eliminating the headaches of working with greedy cash buyers, using a double closing also eliminates the headaches of working with sellers who might get upset if they see that you're making a profit being the middleman.

Warning: In either case sometimes you may feel like shaking the greedy party and saying “Listen your goal is to Sell your home (sellers) or Find a deal on the home (buyers), so what's the problem meat headâ€...I don't recommend doing this...It can cost you.

They can find out what you paid eventually by looking in the tax records but you will have closed the deal by then.

The main downfall in doing double closings is that you closing costs increase significantly because you'll end up paying buyers side title on the first transaction, sellers side title on the next (More expensive than buyer) . Plus, you'll also end up paying 2 closing fees....Unless, you do like I did and always try to close at the same company and negotiate yourself FREE CLOSINGS (That saves me up to $400 on double closings)

[b]Build buyers list==>Find homes==>Put under contract (your name or llc)==>Sign a completely new contract with your buyer==>Double Closing
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Double Closing Procedures
Closing #1-Close with the owner of the home (No money is exchanged)==>Closing #2-Close with your buyer (Give you money)==>Give the money from the closing with your buyer to the title office==>Leave closing with difference between closing #1 and closing #2.

Though I don't use the double closing quite as often as the other tactics, I do have to say it's my favorite as far as producing an AWESOME FEELING when you're leaving the closing table.

There is just something about walking into a closing penniless....Then leaving less than an hour later with a check for $10,000-$20,000.

HUD Assignment
This is a tactic you won't find many investors or “guru's†know a lot about, but it's a sweet little tactic.

As most of you know HUD Contracts are NOT ASSIGNABLE....Which is no big deal if you know how to use this “Little honeyâ€. This was a favorite tactic for one of my clients and he was using this almost on a weekly basis.

The reason I think this is such a killer strategy over many others is that HUD homes can be tied up for $500-$1000 deposit depending on purchase price....But the part that makes me smile, is that UNLIKE many other homes that you will be putting under contract....HUD is NOT IN A RUSH to have them closed....

Since HUD isn't in a rush to get them closed this gives you more of a chance to market for buyers which is especially important if you're one of those people who was foolish enough not to have your buyers list in place BEFORE you started trying to do deals....

On the HUD deals I've done here in Michigan, HUD doesn't require you to close until 60 Days AFTER they have signed the contract...In most cases that means around 70 days (That's a heck of a lot of time for marketing a home).

The other major benefit to doing HUD deals is that if you're a person who can't make it out to look at homes every day HUD homes UNLIKE most REO's are run in an auction style bidding format with bids due daily at midnite and weekend bids are do on Monday....Meaning you can have the entire weekend to go look at HUD homes, at your liesure.

HUD Assignment Procedures
Find your buyers ==> Put home under contract using your name or your llc's name ==> Use a “Add a buyer for financing†form and add your buyer onto the contract with you (Get you're assignment fee when you do this) ==> Have your buyer bring money to closing and both of you will sign paper work like in a traditional closng ==> Once the closing is finished and the hud agent is gone, simply deed yourself off the property...Leaving your buyer as the sole owner.

Looks like they called my name, I'll finish this up later on....With TON more killer tactics.

Eric Medemar

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Real Estate Investor · Northern Territory · Member since 2009 · 136 posts · 10 votes
17y

What about land trusts? One guy put info on it but he hasnt answered as detailed as you with the ===> stuff and simplified it. Any walk through on this?

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  • Real Estate Investor · Northern Territory · Member since 2009 · 136 posts · 10 votes
    17y

    What about land trusts? One guy put info on it but he hasnt answered as detailed as you with the ===> stuff and simplified it. Any walk through on this?

  • General Contractor · Meridian, ID · Member since 2009 · 52 posts · 3 votes
    17y

    Looks like they called my name, I'll finish this up later on....With TON more killer tactics.

    Eric Medemar

    You should be home bye now,just looking forward to the rest
    Thomas

  • Developer · Southfield, MI · Member since 2009 · 38 posts · 1 vote
    17y

    Thanks for the information Eric. Question.......relatively new to wholesaling and excited about this new avenue for my company. I currently have several cash buyers in place for some fsbos in Detroit. What stategy would you use from the exit strategy list saying that the properties that i have are under ten thousand? Just trying to make a quick nickel instead of a slow dime. I was thinking a double closing but dont want to get bombarded with closing costs, since I'm not marking the price up significantly to the end-buyer.

    Also, I have cash buyers but I intend on using the HUD assignment strategy. What pitfalls are there when using this strategy that'll keep me from bumping my head? Will the agents and banks have issue with me structuring the deal this way? Thanks in advance for you advice.

  • Investor · Detroit, MI · Member since 2008 · 296 posts · 11 votes
    17y

    Hey Eric, how can you go into the closing with no money? I thought that once you sign the papers in the closing with Seller A, that you had to give them a check to? So you're basically saying that the title company collects the check from your B-C closing to give to Seller A at a later date? And where does earnest money factor into these deals?

  • Real Estate Coach · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2008 · 204 posts · 188 votes
    16y

    You close with seller A and no money changes hands, then 2 minutes later you close with buyer b....He/she gives you a check and that check is given to the title company to pay off the transaction with seller A...

    Then you leave with a big $hit eating grin on your face with the difference between the two sales...

    These are getting more difficult to do if you don't have cash buyers....

    Hope this helps

  • Inspector · Alsip, IL · Member since 2008 · 361 posts · 75 votes
    16y

    Wow thanks Eric! Your stuff always blows me away. I wish I'd known about that HUD closing trick months ago! Keep up the great work!

  • Real Estate Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2009 · 5 posts · 1 vote
    16y

    Thanks for the information, Eric!!

  • Real Estate Investor · North Central Arkansas · Member since 2009 · 509 posts · 178 votes
    16y

    This is a good post, just thought I'd bump it back up to the top. Keep up the good work Eric.

    Jeff

  • Wholesaler · Fort Myers, Cape Coral, Naples, FL · Member since 2009 · 185 posts · 33 votes
    16y

    Good information Eric, thank you very much!

    I would also like to know more about the HUD strategy. This still sounds like an assignment to me. Does anyone need to approve this up-front?

  • Real Estate Investor · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2009 · 33 posts · 2 votes
    16y

    I love the LLC plan on Short Sales and REO. I use this method and the seller aka bank cant do anything about it. The buyer is the same regardless of who owns the company.

  • Riverside, CA · Member since 2009 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    16y

    Thank you Eric for all the work you put into this post. Your help is very appreciated.

    I'm still eagerly waiting for PT. 2!

  • Loss Mitigation Specialist · Irvine, CA · Member since 2009 · 25 posts · 0 votes
    16y

    Thanks for your comments Eric!

  • Real Estate Investor · Rancho Cucamonga, CA · Member since 2008 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    16y

    Have you ever invested in California? I ask because I started with the assignments and I never really made it anywhere :( The banks rejected every offer I submitted! Also, I to have heard about "Land Trust", are you familiar with that strategy?

  • Real Estate Consultant · Lansing, MI · Member since 2010 · 117 posts · 32 votes
    16y
    Originally posted by Tiara Murray:
    Hey Eric, how can you go into the closing with no money? I thought that once you sign the papers in the closing with Seller A, that you had to give them a check to? So you're basically saying that the title company collects the check from your B-C closing to give to Seller A at a later date? And where does earnest money factor into these deals?

    Another alternative is to use transactional financing. Then you have factor the cost of such financing into the profit and loss equation of your deals. In situations where you may be dealing with a bank or the seller insist on a POF letter having the right transactional financing can overcome those hurdles.

  • Real Estate Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2009 · 91 posts · 22 votes
    16y

    How much time and money does it take to create an LLC? The pocket LLC tactic sounds like an interesting one but I was wondering how this would cut into profits. Thanks!

  • IL · Member since 2008 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    15y

    Does title pass thru me, the wholesaler, in the "simultaneous closing" ( using C's funds to close/payoff the A transaction ) ? Do I take deed/title to the property ? Would I show up in the chain of title ?

    Please advise.

    Thanks

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    15y
    Originally posted by A M:
    Does title pass thru me, the wholesaler, in the "simultaneous closing" ( using C's funds to close/payoff the A transaction ) ? Do I take deed/title to the property ? Would I show up in the chain of title ?

    It's unlikely you'll find any title companies these days who do simultaneous closings...

  • Real Estate Investor · Audubon, PA · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 8k+ votes
    15y

    Every closing results in something that should be recorded in the public records. The title companies will be recording both transactions involved in the double close scenarios, so the middle person in this will be in the chain of title - if only for a day or very short time, they will appear as owner of record.

  • Lender · Tyngsboro, MA · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    15y

    J Scott has it right - title companies are no longer allowing you to use C's funds to pay A, and then walk out with that "$hit eating grin". Hence transactional funding.

    And now the title insurance companies are requiring that if it's a short sale in the A-B transaction, the A's lender sign off on your C transaction. Kills most of the transactional deals. When you add the need for seller seasoning to the C buyers loan requirements, these deals are getting harder and harder.

    Eric, maybe you have a solution for this?

  • IL · Member since 2008 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    15y

    Thanks !

    Simultaneous closings - using C's funds to payoff A - is not illegal if its a cash buyer. The reason Title companies and attorneys say that it can't be done, is due to them being potentially investigated for mortgage fraud and them having to go thru unnecessary litigation. Thats why they don't want any part of it.
    But, I was wondering, if there are any Chicago Illinois investors here who may have worked with a title company or attorney in Chicago that is brave enough to do simultaneous closings. and if you could please give me any references.

    Despite the additional closing costs, it is still the best way to close.
    Else, one would have to have day/flash funding & completely close/payoff A and then, close with C. Ofcourse one would have to account for it's cost, in the offer to the seller.

  • Largo, FL · Member since 2011 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    15y

    Hi Eric,

    If you work with the same title company all the time, what do you say to them to get them to give you free closings like you said in the first post? Thanks for all the good information!

  • Mokena, IL · Member since 2013 · 10 posts · 2 votes
    13y

    In a pocket llc you suggest the seller won't know who's buying it? But in any real estate contract you will still have to sign on the company's behalf. Meaning your signature at the time, not the end buyer if you find one. And in most cases they ask you provide some forum of company in good standing, which would list the president of the company?!

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    13y
    Originally posted by Brian Bremer:
    In a pocket llc you suggest the seller won't know who's buying it? But in any real estate contract you will still have to sign on the company's behalf. Meaning your signature at the time, not the end buyer if you find one. And in most cases they ask you provide some forum of company in good standing, which would list the president of the company?!

    It's true that someone needs to sign on behalf of the company, but that doesn't need to be "you" -- it just needs to be someone who has authority to sign on behalf of the entity, based on the by-laws or operating agreement.

    That someone could be a spouse, partner, another member of the LLC, or if you want to give Power of Attorney, potentially someone completely unrelated to the company (though the POA will need to be signed by someone with authority from the entity).

    Also, at least in my state, the Articles of Organization don't require the naming of any members/managers/shareholders, just an authorized agent (which could be an attorney). So, providing proof of entity will not necessarily reveal who the owner of the LLC is.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    13y
    Originally posted by J Scott:
    Originally posted by A M:
    Does title pass thru me, the wholesaler, in the "simultaneous closing" ( using C's funds to close/payoff the A transaction ) ? Do I take deed/title to the property ? Would I show up in the chain of title ?

    It's unlikely you'll find any title companies these days who do simultaneous closings...

    They exist I use one for every deal I do.

  • Real Estate Investor · Hockessin, DE · Member since 2013 · 35 posts · 11 votes
    13y
    Thank you for the great post!!!
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