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· Little Rock, Arkansas


I just finished reading this article:

http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2006/11/25/wholesaling-real-estate-basics/

"If you end up not being able to sell the property before you are expected to close then you utilize your contingency and walk from the contract."

I pulled this quote above from the article, I am curious to know how a contingency would read, can someone give me an example of a contingency used in a contract?

Thanks


Real Estate Investor · memphis, Tennessee


Alan -

First, there are contingency clauses and there may be a lot of people who say they use them and walk from contracts all the time. I would call using that contingency a reputation killer! I did not see the article and don't know the other basics it purports to teach, but I would not add "walking from the contract before it closes" to my bag of tricks. There are a lot of good articles and reference materials here on BP from people who wholesale a lot of houses and they can give you advice on how to get started so that you never have to walk from a contract.

Second, the idea is to only buy properties that you KNOW are the types of deals that buyers will want. That can be a little daunting and it may seem scary to think that may have to close a house, but you never want to earn a reputation as someone who will put properties under contract and not close.

As you learn from this site and those that have a lot of experience, I am sure they will tell you that whether they have a contingency that allows them out of a contract - they probably hardly ever use it and only in cases where the seller made a mistake.

Best of luck -

Small_picture_3Chris Clothier, Memphis Invest, LLC
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· Little Rock, Arkansas


Hi Chris
Thanks for your quick reply
I see your point very clearly, I am very new to REI and don't understand a lot of things, yet...

This article was written by Joshua Dorkin, BiggerPockets founder. I am looking for people on this site to pull knowledge and indirect experiance from such as yourself and Joshua. I am sure Joshua was just using this as an example to help new REI enthusiasts such as myself.

I definitely see your point and agree that this can be and is a reputation killer, like backing out of a handshake.

Even with this new knowledge I am still curious for a contingency example just for my own knowledge gain...

Thanks



I hesitate to give an example, as these things usually vary from state to state. So with the usual disclaimer that I'm not an attorney:

Partner Approval. Buyer's obligation to close this transaction is contingent upon approval by Buyer's partner of the condition of the property, as well as all terms and conditions of this contract. Buyer shall have ______ days after acceptance to approve or waive this contingency.

I know of at least 3 wholesalers who have used it to get out of the first house they put under contract, as their buyers educated them as to why it wasn't a deal. One renogiated, the other two had to walk away. But they did take it to heart and did better in the future.

I've also heard of some unscroupleless people who lock up houses under contract hoping they can find some sucker to buy it, even if it's not a deal. Don't be like this.

Good luck!


Real Estate Investor · memphis, Tennessee


Well....(i say rather sheepishly)

I should have read that Josh was the author of the article --- he knows a thing or two about real estate i think!

I still stand by the point that you can probably get a pretty good contract to use that will have out clauses in them to protect you, but you do not want to walk from a property just before closing because you do not have it sold. That can be a killer!

I'm quite sure that is not what Josh meant...

Small_picture_3Chris Clothier, Memphis Invest, LLC
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Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


The article is from 2006, though. Things were moving a bit more quickly then.

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Real Estate Investor · memphis, Tennessee


Jon is right Alan. Definitely look for more recent articles or threads on wholesaling and don;t be afraid to ask questions of people on BP who are doing business. IN 2006 things were much more fluid and some things such as financing were much easier to come by and there were a lot more buyers for properties. All the more reason to be really precise on the areas and price points you are looking to wholesale so you will never have to worry about a contingency clause.

Small_picture_3Chris Clothier, Memphis Invest, LLC
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Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Bottom line (which I believe was Josh's point) is that having a contingency in your purchase contract is important in that it protects your earnest money deposit. Without an exit clause from a legal binding contract, you stand to lose the deposit and potentially get sued for failure to perform.

Contingencies should be used reasonably and responsibly. They are not, I repeat, NOT for situations where you can't find a buyer so you can back out of a contract. Wholesalers and other buyers should know that doing so will ruin your reputation and get you black listed from banks, agents, sellers, buyers, and responsible BP Nation Members who find out about it.

If you have a good deal, you should also have enough buyers on your list to sell that good deal to. If not, don't lock up the oontract, it is that simple.

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Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


You should always look for deals that fit your buyers criteria that way you don't have to worry about contingencies. Also if you don't have buyers and the deal is solid you should have no problem finding them.

Only use the contingency in case one or all of your buyers aren't interested in the property for some reason such as lack of funds or too much on their plate. The best one IMHO is the inspection clause which gives you a certain amount of time to inspect the property and back out if you find something wrong.


Wholesaler · Memphis, Tennessee


Contingencies like that mostly work when dealing with a FSBO who doesnt know any better. This will not work with bank REO's in most cases. This is a good qualifier for weeding out the minor leagues from the big leagues.

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· Little Rock, Arkansas


Thank you all for your time and input.

I can see that using a contingency clause irresponsibly would give a black eye to ones reputation. I also understand from my experiance that when I bought my main residence, I had an inspection clause. I had the opertunity to not buy the house if the inspection was not to my liking. This is a contingency clause.

From reading the article I had the impression that this was a legal way you gurus protect yourself (which it is) and could use it as needed but I was unaware of the negative light it is shown and you don't use it very much if at all.

My question now from reading some of the posts above is even though the article was written in 2006, was using a contingency clause to back out of a deal more acceptable back then? If the market is in better shape and more banks are willing to loan does this give an inverstor more power to back out of deals? I am not sure how the 2006 market and todays market would differ on reputation?

I like the term Chris used "out clause" and the way it was worded:

"I still stand by the point that you can probably get a pretty good contract to use that will have out clauses in them to protect you, but you do not want to walk from a property just before closing because you do not have it sold. That can be a killer!"

Walking away from a deal because you don't have a buyer is a reputation killer but if the deal has flaws such as a bad foundation that the seller did not disclose turns this deal into a money pit, one has the right to walk away. This should not hurt one reputation because this is just protecting your business and/or your investors. Like looking at cars on a used car lot. If the engine no go, I no buy.

This has opened my eyes to the fact that if I have a deal and a buyer and if I am good at my job I will never ever need to use a contingeny.

Not 100% knowing what Curt means, I will use his words. Using a contingency is a minor league move and shows inexperiance as the major league players know what they are doing, they find the deal and make the money on the buy not the sell.

Knowledge is power, thank you all



Be sure that your contingency (weasel) clauses are very few, and that they relate specifically to your capacity to perform. That is, they allow you to cancel the contract with full refund of any earnest money deposit in the event that you determine, in your sole subjective discretion, that the property condition is not what you thought it was when you signed the contract, or that you are now unable to finance the transaction.

Contingencies cannot have anything to do with your ability to find a 3rd party assignee/buyer, because then you are substituting your duty to perform as a buyer into a duty to find a buyer. You need a RE license to find a buyer for the seller.

If you are unable to find an assignee/buyer and forfeit your earnest money deposit as full liquidated damages, then you won't need a RE license. You failed to perform as a buyer and you paid compensation to the seller for the damage that you caused.

A unilateral option contract requires non-refundable option consideration, because you are buying the exclusive, irrevocable, right and option to buy the property for a set price for a set period. You paid for the right and you received that right. Whether you (or your assignee) exercise the option is immaterial. In that situation, the seller is already compensated for the possibility that the option will expire. You're not required to perform as a buyer, but you're not getting back your option consideration.

Your option contract can have a refundable earnest money deposit with an inspection period. If you do not cancel the contract due to inspection prior to the inspection period expiring, then the EM is converted into non-refundable option consideration. (Also, the EM is immediately convertable upon assignment.) However, your option is not exercisable until the option consideration is actually rendered.


Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, Georgia


Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith

Contingencies cannot have anything to do with your ability to find a 3rd party assignee/buyer, because then you are substituting your duty to perform as a buyer into a duty to find a buyer. You need a RE license to find a buyer for the seller.

Have you had an attorney confirm that? Based on discussions I've had with a couple different attorneys (in my state, at least), I'm not sure that's the case.

Once you have a property under contract, you have equitable interest, and at least in my state, that provides you the legal right to market the property, regardless of whether you have a license or not.

Plus, once you have the property under contract, you're not marketing the property on behalf of the seller (which WOULD require a license); instead you're marketing your interest in the property on behalf of yourself, which I would be surprised to find is illegal.

I'm not an attorney, and perhaps even our attorneys wouldn't agree, but I'm under the impression that a contingency to assign wouldn't be considered illegal.

J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
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Website: http://www.123flip.com
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Wholesaler · Amarillo, Texas


In my opinion, if you are a new wholesaler you MUST, yes that is a MUST, have a contingency clause. If you do not you will FAIL. Bottomline.

You have no idea what you are doing when you first get in this business and the contingency clause is your only hope to be able to last to your second deal.

Now can using it hurt your reputation? Depends. Your reputation is not what get's you deals with homeowners. Now with REO's contingencies won't fly very far anyway so that doesn't really matter much either, but if you were to back out of a contract with a realtor then I would say, yes, it could hurt your reputation.

No it is not a good way to build your business. If it is part of your long term strategy to building a wholesaling business then you probably won't go far either, BUT it is absolutely necessary as a beginning wholesaler. You won't make it without one.

Whether its from 2006 or not, I would say Josh's statement is still completely true and relevant to beginning wholesalers, just as it was in 2006.



Once you have a property under contract, you have equitable interest, and at least in my state, that provides you the legal right to market the property, regardless of whether you have a license or not.

Plus, once you have the property under contract, you're not marketing the property on behalf of the seller (which WOULD require a license); instead you're marketing your interest in the property on behalf of yourself, which I would be surprised to find is illegal.

That much is correct. You can market your equitable interest in the property and sell (assign) the contract to a 3rd party, providing the contract does not say otherwise.

All contracts, except personal services contracts, are assignable unless they specifically state otherwise. If you assign a contract, your liability to perform remains with you and your assignee, unless the contract specifically states that you are released from liability upon assignment.

What I'm saying is that the language in the contract about "buyer" and "seller" implies a duty to perform as such. If you include a clause or a contingency that is external to that duty, then it changes the nature of the contract into a listing agreement.

A contingency or provision that relieves the buyer from the duty to perform as a buyer and substitutes a duty to perform as if he were a broker will change the nature of the contract into a listing agreement. If you're not licensed or don't have limited power of attorney, then you're breaking the licensure laws.

Just because the title of the contract says "Purchase and Sale Agreement" doesn't mean that it is a PSA. The nature of the duties specified within the contract determine what kind of contract it is.

It really doesn't matter what a few attorneys may say in advocating their client's position. What matters is that contract law is what it is. If you have no duty to perform as a buyer, then your duty is to perform as a broker. That's why providing earnest money deposit as fully liquidated damages for breaching your duty as a buyer is required. If you use an "inspection clause" to bail out and get back your EM, then you must have found something in the inspection that you don't like. You must have a valid basis for exercising the contingency clause.

That's why I use "sole subjective discretion" in the inspection clause, so they can't argue with me that I don't like the available property insurance quote or I don't like the shape or size of the lot. It's not subject to further negotiation; the deal is dead for a valid inspection reason and I get back my EM.

Your contingency clauses must be based on material issues with the property or your own capacity to perform your duty as a buyer (subject to your subjective opinion). You cannot change your duty to perform as a buyer into a duty to perform as broker, unless you have proper legal credentials.

By the way, as an optionee in an option contract, you do not have an equitable interest in the property. You only purchased the unilateral right and option to buy the property for a set price for a set price. You're not obligated to buy the property, therefore there is no equitable interest conveyed by the option contract. To get that equitable interest, you must exercise the option and sign the attached purchase & sale agreement to create a bilateral obligation.


Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, Georgia


Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith

A contingency or provision that relieves the buyer from the duty to perform as a buyer and substitutes a duty to perform as if he were a broker will change the nature of the contract into a listing agreement.

Agreed. But, I don't see how a contingency on being able to assign the contract indicates a duty to perform as a broker. Again, the buyer isn't not contractually obligating himself to find another buyer *for the seller* but is instead obligating himself to find a buyer for his interest in the property.

As far as I know, this isn't against any licensure law in any state.

But, I'm not an attorney, and I only have what other attorneys have told me. It's quite possible a judge would disagree with that interpretation...I have no idea...


By the way, as an optionee in an option contract, you do not have an equitable interest in the property. You only purchased the unilateral right and option to buy the property for a set price for a set price. You're not obligated to buy the property, therefore there is no equitable interest conveyed by the option contract.

As an optionee, you have a marketable interest in the property, which for the purposes we're discussing here, should be just as good (at least it is in my state).

J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
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An assignment provision by itself is not a contingency ("buyer has the right to assign this contract without further approval of seller.").

A provision that changes your duty to perform as a buyer into a duty to perform as a broker requires legal credentials. If you have no duty to perform as a buyer (i.e., you get back your EM if you fail to find a buyer), then you are acting as a broker. A 3rd party assignee is not (yet) a party to your contract with the seller. Therefore, your ability to find a 3rd party is immaterial. It doesn't matter whether the contract identifies you as a "buyer", because you are acting like a broker.

A broker has a duty to perform best efforts to find a 3rd party to buy the property, the broker has no duty to buy the property, and if the broker fails to find a buyer the broker has no financial responsibility to the seller. Your "contingency" to find an assignee to buy the property places you into the exact same duty as a broker, not a buyer.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

As an optionee, yes you have a marketable interest (the "right to buy"), but it is not equitable interest in the property. Your "equitable interest" is in the option contract, which is personalty, not realty. Be sure your option contract grants sufficient possessory rights to enter, to inspect, and to show the property to your prospective assignees.


Wholesaler · Amarillo, Texas


Jeffrey, you are making very specific statements that would not be determined by general contract law but by very specific case law and judicial review. And real estate brokerage laws being state law and not federal, then you would be dealing with each particular state's case laws around real estate brokerage.

Therefore your statements are NOT accurate. Making specific statements about the particulars of 50 different states' case law is ridiculous. There is not an attorney worth their weight in dirt that would even dare to make those kinds of statements.

Now with that said, I have seen a single case in Indiana where an option contract was determined to not be equitable interest and was then construed to be unlicensed real estate brokerage. It was only one case, though, and it was fret with fraud also. It could be used in future cases in Indiana, but that doesn't count for everybody else.



Ryan,

The US Bankruptcy court has concluded that an unexercised option contract has no equitable interest in the property. An option contract is unilateral, not bilateral, and therefore does not require a broker's license for the clear reasons explained earlier. 'Nuff said about options.

As for the other comments, I believe your rebuttal is inaccurate. If you want to use contingencies or provisions in the manner described above to substitute duties, then GO FOR IT! I am not sharing in your profits or losses, and I am not contemplating sharing a defendant's chair with you.

There are certain legal principles regarding contract law that are universal. One of those principles is that the nature of the contract is determined by the behavior of the parties to the contract, not necessarily what is written in the contract. If you substitute your buyer's duty with a broker's duty and then you behave as a broker, then you are a broker.

The contract is only relevant when there is a dispute, then a judge will read the contract to determine what duties were agreed. The judge will see that there is a seller duty and a broker duty, but no buyer duty. Then the judge (or the seller's attorney) will ask to see your broker's license or limited power of attorney. Are you prepared for that situation? I think not.

I didn't want to start a religious war, even though I knew some folks have strongly entrenched beliefs about how they are operating their business and writing their own contracts. I know there are many folks using contracts in way that is highly questionable and they haven't yet been caught. Most of them don't realize they are misusing contracts, and they will be understandably annoyed or angered at my remarks.

If your attorney has approved your contract language, then who am I to argue with your choice of attorney? Just be sure to ask your attorney how he would attack that contract if the parties were reversed.

My remarks are based on many hours of real estate law education and debate with the best real estate attorneys. Their goal is keep me out of the defendant's chair, and they've done a great job so far.

And I forgot to mention my standard disclaimer in my previous remarks, so I'll mention it here: I am NOT an attorney, so ignore everything I just said and do whatever the heck you want.


Wholesaler · Amarillo, Texas


Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith

As for the other comments, I believe your rebuttal is inaccurate. If you want to use contingencies or provisions in the manner described above to substitute duties, then GO FOR IT! I am not sharing in your profits or losses, and I am not contemplating sharing a defendant's chair with you.

I'm not sure if you are referring to me, but I don't advocate and have never advocated using the disputed contingency of finding a buyer. My point is that you are referencing something that is dealt with on a state level as if it is federal. You won't be going to federal court over unlicensed brokerage. Your defendant's chair would be in a state court with reference to your particular state's statutes and case law.

It is not universally accepted, as you state, that because your contingency to purchase a property is based on your ability to find a buyer that a judge will determine you to be brokering real estate. That is NO way universal contract law. Now I am not saying that it could not be argued and possibly ruled that way, BUT it does not fall under universally accepted contract law.

That is a complete assumption on your part.

You should probably RE-state that you are clearly NOT an attorney and everything you so persuasively presented is only your own opinion.




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