Pittsburgh Buy and Hold

Pittsburgh Buy and Hold

Investor · Washington, DC · Member since 2014 · 39 posts · 26 votes

Hey BP Community,

I‘ve seen a lot of people looking for success stories, so here’s mine… This is a buy and hold property in the South Side area of Pittsburgh, PA that I purchased in March. Please feel free to comment or message me. It’s always nice to hear feedback for improving the next deal.

I was targeting a SFH in the South Side area of Pittsburgh, an up and coming area where many college (Pitt, Duquesne, and Carnegie Mellon are all a 5-10 minute drive away) and young professional people live. I took the "funnel" approach that many of the posts and podcasts speak about. Reviewing/ running numbers on roughly 100 properties, touring ~30 properties, and eventually making offers on three. As a side, I currently live in Washington, DC (originally from Pittsburgh). The DC market is too rich for me, so I went back to a more affordable market that I know.

I toured over a three month period – coming to Pitt on a couple of different occasions to view. In the end, there were three in which the numbers made the most sense.

With a partner, I eventually ended up purchasing a 3 bed 2 full bath single family home two blocks away from the main road where restaurants, shops, etc. can be found.

Working with my partner, we put down 20 percent - borrowing $120,000 (on a 30 year fixed) from a traditional lender and we put down a combined $30,000 into the mortgage. Closing costs came out to roughly $7,000, and we put roughly $5,000 into renovations - out of pocket. These renovations included painting all six rooms of the house, significant landscaping and installing carpet in the three bedrooms upstairs. I did the painting and landscaping myself to save on labor and hired a company to install the carpeting. I believe these simple renovations increased the value of the property significantly. ARV is now roughly $180,000.

The house currently rents for $1,500, so I’m very close to the 1 percent rule. I pay water and the tenants pay all other utilities.

How I acquired these tenants is an interesting story for another time, but the property management – that do myself – has been worthwhile learning experience. I would recommend all newer people manage their first few properties.

Now, on to the next deal…

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  • Investor · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2015 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Great story!  Thanks for sharing Chris.  I was just over that way bar hopping.  Great area!  I'm currently looking for a partner on a deal I have under contract in the Regent Square Area.  Lets connect and keep this party rolling! 

  • Investor · Canonsburg, PA · Member since 2016 · 132 posts · 59 votes
    9y

    Nice job! Is this your first place?

    I'd like it better if you had less of your cash in the deal, but the numbers sound very acceptable. By my count, you're cash flowing pretty well even if you're doing 15-year financing. Also you're at 50% LTV which means you could probably refi & pull your cash out if you desired. Might need to season it a bit as a rental first. But at the end of the day you should be pretty well positioned to do it again!

  • Investor · Washington, DC · Member since 2014 · 39 posts · 26 votes
    9y

    Thanks @Damian Brown and @Jay Belcher! - This is my first place and I've already spoken to a few banks about cash out refi options to repeat the process (even though the numbers are a little too close right now to make it worthwhile, but soon though). Now that I have some experience on my record, I'm more comfortable with approaching partners and/or hard money lenders on the next deal. The bigger plan is to use the BRRRR strategy to increase the cash flow.

  • Real Estate Agent · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 846 votes
    9y

    Hi @Chris Mylan

    I am looking to do pretty much the exact same thing with an out of state partner. 

    Would you mind talking on the phone or in a private message about how you set everything up? I'd love to hear how you arranged everything with your partner. 

    Great story and best of luck in the future!

    Tony

  • Investor · Washington, DC · Member since 2014 · 39 posts · 26 votes
    9y

    @Anthony Angotti Sure, would be happy to speak with you. Let's chat on messenger. 

  • Investor · asburn, VA · Member since 2016 · 8 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    Wow @Chris Mylan your story was great to read. As I read your success story I was stunned how much we are alike. I too live in the DMV, specifically- Sterling VA, and work in DC. I currently have two properties in Loudoun county - buy and hold, close to Dulles airport. Likewise, I'm from the Burgh. Born in Uniontown and raised between there and Duquesne. I was just sharing with my fiance that after we complete out third purchase in the DC area (prayerfully by the 2 quarter 2017) I would like to check out the burgh for multifamily or try my luck at the BRRRR strategy. I agree, this area is very pricey. I still consider myself new to investing as I've taken more interest in RE just this year. My plan is to purchase minimum of one property every 1 to 2 years but always considering other opportunities within reason. I hope to connect with people to share ideas, potentially partner, or simply network with like minded investors. I'll be in town this Thanksgiving with family but to check out some properties to get a better feel for the Pittsburgh market. If there's an opportunity you or others in the Pittsburgh area to connect, feel free to PM me. Hope connect with you and congrats again on your success.

  • Investor · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2016 · 15 posts · 8 votes
    9y

    Hey guys, I have 1 Duplex in Carnegie on a conventional loan with 25% down, but I was considering trying my hand at the BRRRR strategy now. Do you know of any lenders who have less than a 1 year seasoning period before refinancing at the properties ARV. I'm going to start calling around after I get a place under contract but I wanted to check and see if anyone had some suggestions. Tying up most of my remaining capital for a year would be a tough pill to swallow.

    For my first property I used Clearview Federal Credit Union for my financing.

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