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Bruce Thomas
  • Oklahoma City, OK
Posted Apr 15 2015, 12:50

How much do you put back in reserves for your properties on average? I know each situation is different. 

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James Rey
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James Rey
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Replied Apr 15 2015, 13:08

250 per unit per year is the average we use. Most of ours are 50 units and up so if yours is below that you might require more.  

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Bruce Thomas
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Replied Apr 15 2015, 14:03

Thanks James. Any more examples?

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ModeratorReplied Apr 15 2015, 14:31

Depends on existing condition of the asset when you buy it and cost reserve stable of when the large tickets items are going out during your ownership time horizon.

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Bruce Thomas
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Replied Apr 15 2015, 17:31

Thanks Joel.

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Replied Apr 18 2015, 08:18

$250-300 

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Jerry Padilla
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Replied Apr 19 2015, 21:06

@Bruce Thomas

6 months saved up is a good number to go with. Especially when looking to get more properties in the future.

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Peter MacKercher
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Replied Apr 20 2015, 13:16

Instead of using a static dollar amount I set aside 10% of profits into a sinking fund to cover expected (new roofs are the big ones) and unexpected expenses. I think that's a good percent to start at.

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Joel A.
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Replied Apr 20 2015, 13:22

I invest in SFRs and im a bit conservative because of all the horror stories ive read about people who have failed at real estate investing and one of those reasons were because they didnt have enough cash reserves.  I dont ever want to be one of those stories so with that being said I like to keep 3k per house on standby at all times.

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Joel A.
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Replied Apr 20 2015, 13:25

but i do calculate 10% for vacancy and 10% for maintenance and set aside that money from each payment into these accounts.  So the 3k includes the 20% from each payment every month.   Once im passed the 3k reserves on each property, i use every penny for reinvesting/saving on the next property.

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Tyson Luthy
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Replied Apr 20 2015, 14:34

The banks like to see 6 month's worth of payment reserves. This should be way more than enough to cover any expenses you have.

I am a conservative investor and just feel better having that much in store at any given time, plus I am ready to buy anytime a deal comes along as far as the banks are concerned.

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William Martin
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Replied Jun 28 2019, 07:24

Just a quick “thank you” to all who responded to this question initially.  I appreciate getting the benefit of your responses this morning.

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Mitchell Hosford
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Replied Jan 3 2020, 11:00
Originally posted by @Peter MacKercher:

Instead of using a static dollar amount I set aside 10% of profits into a sinking fund to cover expected (new roofs are the big ones) and unexpected expenses. I think that's a good percent to start at.

Thank you for starting this thread. I've been asked this question a bit lately and it is a great find on a Friday afternoon.

Peter, are you talking gross or net profits? I was thinking about holding $1,500 for each unit which roughly covers a little over 3 months of rent for that specific unit. 

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Peter MacKercher
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Replied Jan 3 2020, 11:02

@Mitchell Hosford i actually start with 10k per property sf-4 units more if its bigger and do 10% of gross rent. 

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Mitchell Hosford
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Replied Jan 3 2020, 11:14

@Peter MacKercher

Thank you for the advice. That is a good strategy that I will follow.