Turning off Utilities on a rental?

Turning off Utilities on a rental?

Investor · Hendersonville, TN · Member since 2008 · 33 posts · 0 votes

I met a guy today that said he had a couple duplexes and rented them out. He says he keeps the utilities in his name and just charges extra rent to cover for the utilities. He then said if someone is late on their rent and after serving the pay or quit notice, he turns the utilities off. Is this legal? Sounds like a good idea but I wonder if it’s legal.
Thanks,
Richard from Tennessee

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  • Real Estate Investor · Portland, OR · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 23 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by "rbader":
    ...He then said if someone is late on their rent and after serving the pay or quit notice, he turns the utilities off. Is this legal?...

    Unless Tennessee has some weird laws that I am not familiar with... These types of laws are written into the state code...

    Without question… it is clearly illegal.
    Don’t do it.

    Any one else have an opinion?

  • Real Estate Investor · Portland, OR · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 23 votes
    18y

    Another idea...

    What about lighting the house on fire?

    That way, the tenants get out, and you get to collect insurance money to offset the rent they didn’t pay!

    (THIS IS A JOKE! Don’t do this either!)

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    18y

    I think that's illegal just about anywhere. Almost certain to raise the hackles of a judge at the eviction hearing when the tenant says "he cut off the gas and electric". Talk about setting yourself up for months and months of free rent!

    Jon

  • Investor · Hendersonville, TN · Member since 2008 · 33 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    I figured he was not being truthful.. He swore up and down it was legal.. Thanks

  • Asheville, NC · Member since 2008 · 107 posts · 10 votes
    18y

    Slumlord tactics. Not professional and illegal.

  • Raleigh, NC · Member since 2008 · 91 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    just from a logical standpoint it is stupid. During winter time if you cut off the heat and your water pipes burst? A late rent payments seems like a small price to pay in comparison

  • Real Estate Investor · OH · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 86 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by "EricFoster":
    Another idea...

    What about lighting the house on fire?

    That way, the tenants get out, and you get to collect insurance money to offset the rent they didn’t pay!

    (THIS IS A JOKE! Don’t do this either!)

    I perfer sneaking into their bedroom at night, hog tieing them and dropping them off at my mother inlaws house. They'd pay after spending a few hours with her.

  • Real Estate Investor · Portland, OR · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 23 votes
    18y

    What’s her address? I have a few to drop off!

  • Real Estate Investor · OH · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    18y

    C'mon TC. You should know that the Ohio Supreme Court has ruled that to be cruel and unusual punishment.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Somerville, MA · Member since 2008 · 339 posts · 52 votes
    18y

    These are awesomely funny responses.

    That landlord may also run into trouble using his current model if he's overcharging those utilities. For example, if the ACTUAL electric expense is $37 and he's charging tenants +$50 for electric, that's a no-no according to the utility companies unless he's a registered utility reseller. Most landlords who offer utilities with rent never disclose how much of the rent is specifically for those utilities and therefore, are basically covered. Potentially you could run into trouble if the units are individually metered but the rents aren't fluctuating with monthly utility expenses. I've never seen it happen though.

    Many utility companies have a "Landlord Agreement" for properties so that once a tenant cuts off service it automatically sustains under the Landlord's name so you don't have an interruption of service. You would do this to make sure the electricity/water/etc stay on if your property stays vacant or while you're showing a vacant property. I've found that handy.

  • Real Estate Investor · OH · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 86 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by "MikeOH":

    C'mon TC. You should know that the Ohio Supreme Court has ruled that to be cruel and unusual punishment.

    Which part, the kidnapping or mother inlaw?

  • Real Estate Investor · OH · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    18y

    I don't think the kidnapping is too serious. It's the mother-in-law that is the crime!

    Mike

  • Member since 2008 · 689 posts · 23 votes
    18y

    we use "revert to landlord" program with the local utility company. It is so hard to get the turn off coordinated so this works in the landlord's favor. That way there's always hot water for cleaning.

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