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Real Estate Investor · Tampa, Florida


Can anyone tell me if there is a time limit on how long you can wait to take legal action against a tenant who has broken a lease and left owing back rent? At the time, the tenant had driven the property into foreclosure and my mind was more on saving the property than taking action against them. Now that I have the problem resolved, I would like to collect what is due to me. I am in Florida and the former tenant is now somewhere in Indiana. has anyone ever dealt with a similar situation than can tell me the easiest way to go about this?


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


Where's the property? Speak with the court clerk at small claims court in the county where the property is located.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Tampa, Florida


The property is in Florida. I'm not sure this would qualify as small claims. Its around $14K. total rent and utilites. Court clerk here in Florida or Indiana the tenant is?


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


I believe you'll need to file suit in the county where the property is located. Have you spoken to a lawyer? There's a big enough sum involved you should involve a lawyer. Does the tenant have any assets to make this worthwhile? Suing tenants is more a matter of getting a judgment against them than actually collecting anything.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Tampa, Florida


No, I haven't spoken to a lawyer. I didn't know whether to contact one here or where they were. in other words, I'm clueless as to how to go about it with her out of state. And no, she probably doesn't have any assets since she wouldn't pay her rent. But she has a job and I'd think she could pay it off in payments at least.


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


Start with a lawyer where the property is located. He or she can at least advise you on the proper procedure and the time limits. Most should do a quick initial phone call for free or a small charge.

If you do go to court and win you will get a judgment saying she owes you the money. Nothing more. The court won't force her to make payments or anything like that. That will be up to you to track her down and get her to pay. You can take the judgment to a collection agency, and they will try to collect, for a cut. You can also put the judgment on her credit report. You hope will be that at some point she wants to buy a house or a car and the judgment interferes with that, and that when that happens she contacts you and pays you off.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Minneapolis, Minnesota


How long ago was this a renter of yours or when did he move out?


Real Estate Investor · Tampa, Florida


Its been around a year and 4 months since I finally got her out of the house. I spent a year fighting it out in the courts to get the property out of foreclosure so my attention has just recently turned back to that direction.


Real Estate Investor · ten mile, Tennessee


That judgement against her may also be able to be used by the courts where she is to "garnish" her wages as a source of repayment. That could also mean that you will also be suing her in her local court as some counties will not enforce a judgement without it comming from their court.

As previouly suggested this is all started by a local attorney who will best guide you in this area as it may be worthless to sue her locally if that judgement is not going to be enforceable by the courts where she currently is.


Real Estate Investor · Tampa, Florida


Thanks Jim. I don't think here in Florida they will garnish her wages for repayment but it is my understanding that they will in Indiana. I was trying to determine if it was worth the effort to sue her for it. If the only thing I will get is a judgment, my feelings are, no it is not.


Real Estate Investor · ten mile, Tennessee


It is the advice of the attorney that will be the most importance to you.

you may have to sue them in FL first where the loss occurred to recieve the judgement. Then take that judgement to IL and sue her there for the right to attach any asset that she owns there.

this would include what we normally think of as assets which are bank accounts, real estate, ect. But many people do not realize that your paycheck, which is owed to you for the work that you already did, is an asset to you.

That, of course, does not stop a person, such as you described, from quitting that job and getting another so the garnishment stops. I believe a wage garnishment is job specific. If she is working 2 jobs to make ends meet, you might be able to garnish both jobs.


Real Estate Investor · Ohio


Personally, I don't think you'll ever collect. In addition, it will take significant time and effort to sue her; track her down; file garnishments; etc. More good money after bad if you ask me!

The big question that stands out to me is why/how you allowed the tenant to get $14K behind on rent and utilities?

Mike


Real Estate Investor · ten mile, Tennessee


Mike, sounds like to me that she made a newbie mistake in that she relied upon the renter make her loan for her with her rent check. And any decent rent 800-1000 could easily get to 14K in rent only in the time period she mentioned.

I will bet you that from now on she will watch things more closely.

But as for as collecting, that is why I told her to rely on her attorney's expertise in these matters. Even if she is able to collect some of the money (which would have to include the attorney's fees) will it really be worth it?

With the economic times getting rough for a lot of people, who is to say that the individual will not come after her for making it almost impossible to get a good job, ect because of that garnishment on her records.

There are more than monetary considerations to all decisions that need to be made.


Real Estate Investor · Tampa, Florida


The property is a rather nice one so the rent was closer to $1800. I made several newbie mistakes in that the property was meant to flip, I spent too much on the rehab, the market flopped and I could not make any money by selling so I rented it. Newbie mistake number two was trusting a mortgage broker that got me in a really bad loan and newbie mistake number four was I rented to a so called friend. Info for any other newbies who may not have $100K plus they want to flush down the toilet ;) Mike, I agree with you that I don't think I will ever collect and it would be a waste of my time and money to pursue it so I have not.


· West Virginia


Check out the rental resources on this website under resources and then rental.
They have a debt collection online program.
Also, in some states (WV) if you get an abstract of judgement, you can take to DMV and force sale of vehicle.


Real Estate Consultant · Tampa, Florida


If you do nothing else, report what your previous tenant to all three major credit bureaus. My blog informs landlords about their options in collecting debt left by previous tenants.

Good luck!
Bill Gray
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Real Estate Investor · Tampa, Florida


Thanks Bill. I'll certainly take a look at your blog. If nothing else for future reference.


Real Estate Investor · Seattle, Washington


14K? I believe you are WAY out of the Small Claims Court if you aggregate everything. Superior Court if you file for the whole enchilada.

If you break it down you could sue for portions that keep it in Small Claims Court. Or maybe not, as I am not a lawyer and can't give legal advice.

I think Florida Small Claims Court is limited to 5K.

In any event, I find it quite enjoyable to get the deadbeats. You can learn a lot by just going to court and testing the system.

It is a cheap education in law to file and lose than to hire a lawyer.

My advice is to file and see what happens. Then file again, and again, until you get what you want or you find you can't get what you want.

I wonder if you can "write off" a trip to your deadbeats general address to get papers served, or serve a writ of garnishment, or some other legal reason. Gets you to play private detective as an adventure, reduces your taxes, counts as a business expense, combines with vacation time, and can introduce you to the wonderfful tweakers of America!

Of course, you may value your time differently.


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


Bill, what's the process for reporting that a tenant left owing your money? I looked at your blog, and it says to do it, but I don't see any process for actually making the report.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Wholesaler · Memphis, Tennessee


Karen,

It will not be a good use of your time, money and resources to go after the old renter. Remember, they are renters for a reason. One thing to keep in mind for next time is when someone does not pay you need to either turn off utilities or remove the AC unit, depending on time of year. They will leave soon after.

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